Dexter_Sinister
10 years ago
I have seen a few knee injuries happen.Sometimes they go into shock and have to be carted away in an ambulance. Sometimes they get up and keep playing.

When I tore my MCL, I got up and finnished the inning behind the plate. I think I even threw someone out stealing. It didn't get bad until I sat down between innings.

If the joint isn't displaced when the ligament tears, there seems to be less pain and shock. From my small sample of expiriances.
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uffda udfa
10 years ago
I do have to say NOBODY has a worse staff at providing accurate medical information. It would not surprise to see Lyerla need major reconstructive surgery after initially announcing it as a sprain.It seems our staff is in the 1920's as far as technology based on what we see get reported.

You can cite multiple cases of the Packers underreporting injury severity only to find out it's season ending. It'd be nice if they could get a handle on injuries right after they happen but they often seem clueless.
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beast
10 years ago

I do have to say NOBODY has a worse staff at providing accurate medical information.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



ummmm PATRIOTS ?!?!?!? ... they've (allegedly) released false info on purpose a number of times... including on the weekly in season players reports, where the media would then ask the players and the players basically answered, I don't know what you're talking about, that part of me is fine, either I have had no problems or problems in a different area, not where you suggested. That's before they got the shut up about this signal from someone upstairs (most assumed the head coach).


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nerdmann
10 years ago

ummmm PATRIOTS ?!?!?!? ... they've (allegedly) released false info on purpose a number of times... including on the weekly in season players reports, where the media would then ask the players and the players basically answered, I don't know what you're talking about, that part of me is fine, either I have had no problems or problems in a different area, not where you suggested. That's before they got the shut up about this signal from someone upstairs (most assumed the head coach).

Originally Posted by: beast 



The Patriots just outright lie about it though. They don't have guys like Charles Johnson who suddenly have a previously undiagnosed ACL. I remember Atari Bigby was pretty pissed off when he left here too. He made some comments about having to play on a broken ankle.

Don't get me wrong, the Packers do constantly lie. But it also seems like they have more issues than just that.
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musccy
10 years ago

No evidence whatsoever, except for a bunch of ACLs that suddenly pop, with no trauma to the joint. I mean really. These guys keep on practicing. LOL

And that's just the ACLs, we're not even including all the hammys.

But none of us expect accountability. Of course it's not Mike's fault. And when we field a JV team in the playoffs this year and get our asses kicked, it won't be his fault either.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Among other reasons, hammy's can be due to lack of hydration...so M.M. is installing the snack/drink breaks in practice this year. From what I've read, they've also adopted a more dynamic warm up routine as opposed to the antiquated sit and reach counterproductive static stretching model.

As others noted, if you're going to blame Abby's ACL on nutrition, strength/condition, etc. how can you attribute that to the Packers when he has practiced with the team maybe 3 weeks cumulatively thus far?

I'm too lazy to look up stats or examples of other team's injuries, but I think the Cowboys actually led the league in hamstring pulls resulting in lost playing time last season. I'm not trying to dismiss injuries to bad luck, but at the same time, the grass isn't as green as we think in other people's lawns.

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10 years ago

I need to bump this guy off and take his job ;)

And Ill state this - they need to get a chiro there that works there and thats it. All these dudes with bulged discs in their LB and Neck. Probably a chiro that just stops in and adjs a few peeps isnt going to help with potential ACL injuries, hammy injuries etc etc ...
Unless he is a dedicated chiro that is into that stuff.

and ya ACL injuries can be prevented - Im not an expert but like I mentioned last month - went to a seminar where they talked about this very thing and they stated were having talks with the denver broncos staff.



Originally Posted by: Dulak 



I an see elite athletes wanting/needing adjustments every single day on some part of their body. Especially in a contact collision sport like football.

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