Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Perhaps. There has been plenty of speculation that current budgets will be "grandfathered" under the new CBA, allowing teams to keep their superstar players through the duration of their budgets. I'm not sure what the precise logistics of that would be, since players were cut in the middle of their contracts all the time under the former CBA.
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ILikeThePackers39
14 years ago

Perhaps. There has been plenty of speculation that current budgets will be "grandfathered" under the new CBA, allowing teams to keep their superstar players through the duration of their budgets. I'm not sure what the precise logistics of that would be, since players were cut in the middle of their contracts all the time under the former CBA.

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I think I'd need a guarantee of that grandfather clause - Peppers is making a huge wad of cash at this point.

I think the guy's a beast when he comes to play (it has been and can be argued that he's guilty of not doing so at times), and I'd be a fool to say "don't need him, don't want him". However, given the pressure the Packers are getting so far, I just don't feel like it was a miss (other than, you know, him going to a division rival - that's not so good).
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Chutzpah515
14 years ago

No. We don't. There is no cap.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Yes, therefore we have PLENTY of cap room at Ted Thompson's disposal.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
That raises an interesting question: Whom would a grandfather clause favor more -- the teams or the players? In other words, who would have to give up concessions in order for a grandfather clause to be included in the CBA? I can see it going both ways, but it's more likely, in my opinion, that the players would lobby for the clause.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

No. We don't. There is no cap.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Doesn't much matter. There's no cap on what I can spend either, but that doesn't mean I can spend whatever I want. Same goes with the Packers. There might not be a cap, but there is a limit on what they can spend.
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millertime
14 years ago
I thought the D played well last night. We just couldn't catch a break with penalties and I saw a lot of missed holding calls where the Bears were mugging CM3 or Jenkins. The STs are what cost us the game between the blocked FG and Hesters punt return.

Didn't they block a FG two years ago to beat us?
Johnson
14 years ago

We have the cap money.
I dunno why Thompson didn't go for Peppers.
He is virtually unstoppable.

To me, Peppers is the sole reason we lost last night.
He is stronger, faster, and scarier than Jared Allen.

If we had Peppers on the packers, could you have imagined
the edge rushers w/Peppers on one side and Clay Matthews on the other?

Sorry..just crying over spilled milk.

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I think by now its pretty obvious that we have a GM who doesn't "believe" in signing high $$ free agents. Its also pretty obvious after last night that such "beliefs" are totally erroneous, and foolish to boot. One word: Reggie.

We lost to a team that is totally inferior in terms of talent, and as much as people have criticized McCarthy, the dumbest coach in the NFC north is easily Lovie Smith. But not by much.
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Cal2GreenBay
14 years ago

We have the cap money.
I dunno why Thompson didn't go for Peppers.
He is virtually unstoppable.

To me, Peppers is the sole reason we lost last night.
He is stronger, faster, and scarier than Jared Allen.

If we had Peppers on the packers, could you have imagined
the edge rushers w/Peppers on one side and Clay Matthews on the other?

Sorry..just crying over spilled milk.

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I think by now its pretty obvious that we have a GM who doesn't "believe" in signing high $$ free agents. Its also pretty obvious after last night that such "beliefs" are totally erroneous, and foolish to boot. One word: Reggie.

We lost to a team that is totally inferior in terms of talent, and as much as people have criticized McCarthy, the dumbest coach in the NFC north is easily Lovie Smith. But not by much.

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They may have been inferior overall talentwise, but from a defensive end standpoint, they have one of the most dominant forces around.

Most of the penalties yesterday was around trying to stop Peppers and the OL overreacting. W/out him on the Bears...penalties go away.

If Peppers were on the packers...penalties go away and penalties increase for other teams.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

I thought the D played well last night. We just couldn't catch a break with penalties and I saw a lot of missed holding calls where the Bears were mugging CM3 or Jenkins. The STs are what cost us the game between the blocked FG and Hesters punt return.

Didn't they block a FG two years ago to beat us?

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That was I believe '08 😞 yes
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RaiderPride
14 years ago
I love the Packers "D" as is. That is my job, as a fan. This is what the Packers Organization has given me to love this year.

I am not the GM, I have never been a GM. I will never be a GM. So I take what they give me every freakin year and root them on with every fiber of passion in my body.

Last time I looked at the stats Peppers did not have a sack last night. In Fact the Bears "D" as a whole did not have a sack last night. But the Packers had THREE.

I do not even want to waste a single minute of my football season thinking about questions like "Should The Packers Have Got Peppers?"

For me (Personally) it is pointless.

This is my team, So are the Raiders. This is what I have been dealt.

All I can do is root them on.
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