Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Best class from 2012-2021 drafts: 2013: First-round pick Datone Jones never turned into much, but it was not a good first round overall. They got a lot out of the rest of their class. Second-round pick Eddie Lacy was the offensive rookie year of the year and had back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons. Fourth-rounder David Bakhtiari is a perennial All Pro at left tackle. Fifth-round center JC Tretter was a starter, and they never should have let fifth-round safety Micah Hyde get away in free agency. Even seventh-round linebacker Sam Barrington had a run as a starter. -- Rob Demovsky

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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33297949/nfl-draft-which-teams-gotten-best-value-2012-rank-all-32 



Packers have done fairly well.
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Cheesey
2 years ago
Yeah, they did okay. I really thought Eddie Lacy was going to be a long time star. He had so much talent.
It just shows how much mental attitude plays into it. If you don't care, and don't keep yourself motivated, all the talent in the world won't get it done. He ate himself out of the NFL.
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PackersNation
2 years ago
Never been a Pro Football Reference or Pro Football Focus are "the bibles" on ranking players type. I leave that to some clueless fans and even more clueless talking heads.

Their Career Approximate Value Over Expected(CAVOE) is as bogus as the rest of their rankings of players. Look where they have Rashan Gary.

That's all I needed to see.
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Never been a Pro Football Reference or Pro Football Focus are "the bibles" on ranking players type. I leave that to some clueless fans and even more clueless talking heads.

Their Career Approximate Value Over Expected(CAVOE) is as bogus as the rest of their rankings of players. Look where they have Rashan Gary.

That's all I needed to see.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 



I don't believe Pro Football Reference or Pro Football Focus was used to rank anything here. And Pro Football Reference is actually just statistics, that's it. Unless when they merged with that other company they now do rankings? 🤷‍♂️

As for this ESPN ranking thing, no idea. They have a crappy QB rating system which is more boneheaded than the actual QB rating that is used by everyone else.

What is good to see is how teams fare against other teams. It's a decent metric in that capacity. Much better than arbitrary grade from some hack.
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PackersNation
2 years ago

I don't believe Pro Football Reference or Pro Football Focus was used to rank anything here. And Pro Football Reference is actually just statistics, that's it. Unless when they merged with that other company they now do rankings? 🤷‍♂️

As for this ESPN ranking thing, no idea. They have a crappy QB rating system which is more boneheaded than the actual QB rating that is used by everyone else.

What is good to see is how teams fare against other teams. It's a decent metric in that capacity. Much better than arbitrary grade from some hack.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Pro Football Reference is who ESPN based that article off on what teams got the best value since 2012. That is why I mentioned them.
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Pro Football Reference is who ESPN based that article off on what teams got the best value since 2012. That is why I mentioned them.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 


Hmm, didn't catch when I skimmed the article.

How we rank: To evaluate the players taken in each of the past 10 NFL drafts (2012-2021), we used Approximate Value (AV) -- Pro Football Reference's method of measuring the performance of every NFL player. We took each player's career AV and measured it against a value based on where that player was taken in the NFL draft -- we're calling it Career Approximate Value Over Expected (CAVOE).



I wouldn't trust Pro Football Reference. They are good for data, but rankings or value of players, I struggle to trust anyone.
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