zombieslayer
15 years ago

I'm a diehard rebel myself, but I don't see how this can be spun as anything other than flagrant rebellion against rules to which both sides negotiated and contracted, no matter what he may claim his intentions to be. If he wants his friend to be honored, have the team raise his jersey on a banner at halftime or something.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I'm going to disagree with you here.

Chad was crying, literally crying, when he scored a TD last game. He took his helmet off and just started crying.

He was also calling Henry's cell phone repeatedly just to hear Henry's voice still on the answering machine.

We all grieve in different ways and Chad's one of those players who is overly emotional. Had he been born a white boy, he wouldn't be in the NFL but instead on stage and playing Emo music.

My heart goes out to Henry's family, but also to Chad. Losing a dear friend sucks and there's nothing you can do to bring your friend back. Nothing.

Let the guy grieve in his own way, as silly as it sounds to the rest of us. Heck, I hope he does wear 15, if Henry's family is cool with it.
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Gravedigga
15 years ago

The sport is getting too sensational, sorry. If you want to donate money to the memorial fund, do it but don't make a game out of it. At some point, you have to adhere to the rules of the game and the league. You knew the rules when you signed on, this rule hasn't changed since then. If you don't like it, do something else with your life.

Personally, I think that equipment violations like this should be ejectable in most cases.

"Dulak" wrote:



The rules are plenty and more than needed. Plummer wasn't allowed to honor Tillman,

"Gravedigga" wrote:



Excuse me!! Tilman was a guy who gave up millions of dollars to do something he believed in, while defending our safety and freedom at war and who was needlessly killed by friendly fire. Henry jumped or fell off of a pick up truck. Regardless of the circumstances, plummer didnt make a sideshow out of it and neither should Chad in this instance. Chad is trying to cope with the loss by making a show out of it.

For ONE GAME, why not let him do it? What's the big deal?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



It's not a big deal unless the nfl is going to fine him which they likely will. The point is that the attention is being taken away from Henry(where it should be) on to Chad(where it should not be). Thats really the only point. The issue of changing your number is a non issue in my opinion.

"Porforis" wrote:



quite some good arguements here in this thread - I am agreeing with gravedigger - while Ochos action appear to be honerable in the face of a 'tyrant' what is occuring is as GD pointed out is that the attention is being taken away from the person that died and put on ocho and his fight with the NFL which he seems to be doing (almost every week) for what attention?

So who is this about ocho or the guy that died? if its the guy that died then why do something that is going to put the light on you and your fight with the big/bad wolf.

How about ocho or the team do something for henry that doesnt involve a "look at me" or rebellions attitude.

As the bible talks about - "There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a time for every event under heaven ~
A time to kill, and a time to heal; A time to tear down, and a time to build up.
4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; A time to mourn, and a time to dance."

"Cheesey" wrote:



I'd also like to add that I love Chad and his antics for the most part. I don't necessarily think the action would have been all that bad in normal circumstances. But Chad, being who he is, being known for the theatrics that he is known for. His personality and his history is what may create the circus. Prior actions do matter. Your reputation does matter. How you conduct yourself does matter sometimes.
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Gravedigga
15 years ago

Chad decided against it because he didn't want it to be a distraction and didn't feel this is what Chris would want. But hey, Chad is still a bad guy because he's an easy target for assholes who light there life so tightassed they can't enjoy fun if it sat on their fat prickly face.

LIGHT UP, HAVE SOME FUCKING FUN!

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I gained more respect for Chad when I heard that he decided against it for the exact reasons people have said it would be a bad idea.
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Formo
15 years ago

I'm a diehard rebel myself, but I don't see how this can be spun as anything other than flagrant rebellion against rules to which both sides negotiated and contracted, no matter what he may claim his intentions to be. If he wants his friend to be honored, have the team raise his jersey on a banner at halftime or something.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I'm going to disagree with you here.

Chad was crying, literally crying, when he scored a TD last game. He took his helmet off and just started crying.

He was also calling Henry's cell phone repeatedly just to hear Henry's voice still on the answering machine.

We all grieve in different ways and Chad's one of those players who is overly emotional. Had he been born a white boy, he wouldn't be in the NFL but instead on stage and playing Emo music.

My heart goes out to Henry's family, but also to Chad. Losing a dear friend sucks and there's nothing you can do to bring your friend back. Nothing.

Let the guy grieve in his own way, as silly as it sounds to the rest of us. Heck, I hope he does wear 15, if Henry's family is cool with it.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I'm with ZS.
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djcubez
15 years ago

I'm a diehard rebel myself, but I don't see how this can be spun as anything other than flagrant rebellion against rules to which both sides negotiated and contracted, no matter what he may claim his intentions to be. If he wants his friend to be honored, have the team raise his jersey on a banner at halftime or something.

"Formo" wrote:



I'm going to disagree with you here.

Chad was crying, literally crying, when he scored a TD last game. He took his helmet off and just started crying.

He was also calling Henry's cell phone repeatedly just to hear Henry's voice still on the answering machine.

We all grieve in different ways and Chad's one of those players who is overly emotional. Had he been born a white boy, he wouldn't be in the NFL but instead on stage and playing Emo music.

My heart goes out to Henry's family, but also to Chad. Losing a dear friend sucks and there's nothing you can do to bring your friend back. Nothing.

Let the guy grieve in his own way, as silly as it sounds to the rest of us. Heck, I hope he does wear 15, if Henry's family is cool with it.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I'm with ZS.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Seeing him cry you could tell he cared deeply about Henry.

About the rule bending? Yes, the league has to use people for examples, but this is one reason to actually allow it. I agree that in most circumstances you shouldn't allow a player to bend a rule like this but think about it:
- It grants Ochocinco no strategic advantage whatsoever
- It does not promote any outside organizations
- It is not offensive or demeaning

This is a situation where the NFL should show they still have a heart and actually care about the players that line their pockets with cold, hard cash. We all know how much they benefit from not helping injury-riddled retirees. I feel like in a sport like the NBA or the MLB they would allow it. I'm sick of the NFL acting like they're the god damned police. Yes, I understand they want to protect and shape an image but there would only be positive publicity from allowing this to happen.
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