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I don't remember where I heard/read this, but I guess the scoreboard is that low, because the U2 (who's having a concert there in Oct.??) concert requires it to be where it's currently at.

Again, not sure how official that is.

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Way to get your priorities straigth, lol.
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I don't remember where I heard/read this, but I guess the scoreboard is that low, because the U2 (who's having a concert there in Oct.??) concert requires it to be where it's currently at.

Again, not sure how official that is.

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Way to get your priorities straigth, lol.

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lol ... What?!
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I don't remember where I heard/read this, but I guess the scoreboard is that low, because the U2 (who's having a concert there in Oct.??) concert requires it to be where it's currently at.

Again, not sure how official that is.

"Formo" wrote:



Way to get your priorities straigth, lol.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



lol ... What?!

"Formo" wrote:



Having the scoreboard low, in a football stadium, because of a U2 concert, while it hinders a football game.
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I don't remember where I heard/read this, but I guess the scoreboard is that low, because the U2 (who's having a concert there in Oct.??) concert requires it to be where it's currently at.

Again, not sure how official that is.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Way to get your priorities straigth, lol.

"Formo" wrote:



lol ... What?!

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Having the scoreboard low, in a football stadium, because of a U2 concert, while it hinders a football game.

"Formo" wrote:



Patience with him Rock.. he has never had the opportunity to view a home NFL game from a quality venue.. being stuck with the Humpty Dump for all these years.. anything would be an improvement. 😉
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I don't remember where I heard/read this, but I guess the scoreboard is that low, because the U2 (who's having a concert there in Oct.??) concert requires it to be where it's currently at.

Again, not sure how official that is.

"pack93z" wrote:



Way to get your priorities straigth, lol.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



lol ... What?!

"Formo" wrote:



Having the scoreboard low, in a football stadium, because of a U2 concert, while it hinders a football game.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Patience with him Rock.. he has never had the opportunity to view a home NFL game from a quality venue.. being stuck with the Humpty Dump for all these years.. anything would be an improvement. ;)

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I don't know about that. Everytime I've seen the Vikings play there, they've lost. It's kind of a special place for me! I love watching "football fans" boo the refs for procedure penalties, off sides, delay of game. Kind of gives you a warm feeling that your a Packer fan.
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They sould put one of those scoreboards in the metrodome.

Yeh it would obscure the view of the games for some Vikes fans.

But....Is that a bad thing?
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Isn't the present rule (probably made up on the fly per Jerry) that if the punter hits the sign he gets a "do-over"?

We should go get a sign. The luck we have been having with punters, I say mount it 40 feet above the field. We tell whoever we trot out there to aim for the sign. Then, whenever Kapinos/Brooks/TBA punts...if they hit it over the sign, we are Good to go. If they hit the sign, they get another shot at it.

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Bet they would still miss the damn thing though.
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I think it was interesting that Wade Phillips mentioned the huge ass screen could be used as an advantage for his team.

THAT'S EXACTLY THE ISSUE, DUMBASS! 😉
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15 years ago

Commentary: Dallas Cowboys' owner Jerry Jones has jumbotron-sized ego
 

Posted by JEREMY ELLIOTT, For The Patriot-News Monday August 24, 2009, 10:18 PM

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A simple punt in a preseason game never meant so much or caused so much commotion.

There was 8:07 left in the third quarter when Tennessee reserve punter A.J. Trapasso lined up to punt during an exhibition game against the Dallas Cowboys at the new, high-tech, way-too-expensive Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

The ball sailed off Trapasso's foot and caromed off the 432-ton videoboard hanging from the roof of this gaudy facility. Officials met after Titans head coach Jeff Fisher tossed his red flag on the field and wanted a review of the incident.

That's when we were greeted with the first "do-over" in Cowboys Stadium history. And you can expect more -- plenty more -- in the future.

One has to wonder what Jerry Jones was thinking. How can someone, who has the richest franchise in the history of the league and who is supposed to be so brilliant, make this sort of blunder by ordering a Jumbotron so big, so extravagant that a backup punter smacks it?

Well, that's Jones being Jones.

There have been so many times when the Cowboys' maverick owner has let his ego get in the way of common sense. So many times his arrogance has shown.

The Jimmy Johnson fiasco. Not paying Emmitt Smith and letting his team lose the first two games of the 1993 season. Hiring Barry Switzer and Dave Campo.

Just add this one to the list.

When Indianapolis built Lucas Oil Stadium, Colts punter Hunter Smith, now with the Washington Redskins, was brought in to punt balls and make sure they didn't hit the scoreboard. This classy organization did its due diligence.

Not Jones.

I don't have a problem with making something nice for the fans. They are the ones who should be pampered. And there is plenty to like about this stadium. But what we don't like is making something so big that it supersedes the game and isn't given a test run.

Ridiculous.

Jones was quick to mention that the punters tried to hit it. Does that really matter? Ever hear of a five-second hang time, Jerry?

This thing is either too big or too low, and something needs to be done. But that would require Jones to admit he is wrong.

Jones gave more excuses, saying that the league signed off on it. He took it to another level when he said he wasn't going to do anything about it, and that when someone hits it, they can replay the down.

Again, arrogance.

But that is Jones' way. Really, did we need a $1.2 billion facility? Apparently Jones does. Can you say, pretentious?

This screams of a little boy saying "I have more than you," or "Mine is bigger than yours." Or maybe it's just someone who wants people to focus on something other than the product on the field.

Maybe Jones should worry about something that matters, like the fact that he spent way too much money on Roy Williams. (Boy, did Detroit see him coming on that one.)

Maybe Jones should lock up DeMarcus Ware or get a quality receiver to help out Pro Bowl quarterback Tony Romo.

Now those are decisions that make sense.


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15 years ago
Another perspective on this issue from our friends at DallasSportsFans.com :

The Dallas Cowboys Massive HD Screen or Jumbo-tron has been quite the hot button topic in the media as of late. Is the screen high enough, some say yes (Jerry Jones included), and others are saying the Jumbo-tron needs to be raised. The NFL guidelines for this are that it must be at least 85 feet in the air, and the Jumbotron hangs at 90 feet. So, Jerry Jones, the Jumbo-tron, or the Dallas Cowboys should not be at fault because the NFLs height requirements were not very well thought out. That said, instead of moving the massive HD screen up, which has been reported to make it inoperable the NFL has instead created a special rules instead. . . .

So it is definitely safe to say that the massive HD Jumbo-tron at Jerry world will not be going anywhere except for the U2 concert in october when the Cowboys Jumbotron will be disconnected and raised to make room for their stage lighting.


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15 years ago
Jeff Fisher was on Dan Patrick show and he did confirm that the NFL was okay with it...

I think that is when Jeff Fisher said it isnt Jerry's fault

( Jeff is on a committee for the league)
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15 years ago
And finally, for the text of the rule itself, we turn to PFT.

League officially announces "do over" rule 
Posted by Mike Florio on August 28, 2009 10:31 AM ET

The NFL formally has announced the rule that will apply to the Cowboys video board in 2009.

Here's the official text of the new rule.

1. If a ball in play strikes a video board, guide wire, sky cam, or any other object, the ball will be dead immediately, and the down will be replayed at the previous spot.

2. If there is not an on-field ruling that the ball struck an object, the Replay Assistant is empowered to initiate a booth review, including if the event occurs prior to the two-minute warning. If, prior to the two-minute warning, no booth review is initiated by the Replay Assistant, a coach's challenge is permitted under the customary procedures for such a challenge.

3. In the event the down is replayed: (a) The game clock will be reset to the time remaining when the snap occurred. (b) All penalties will be disregarded, except for personal fouls which will be administered prior to replaying the down.

So there you have it. The board won't be moved during the 2009 season.

"We will continue to address the particular circumstances in Dallas, giving full consideration to the competitive, safety and fan experience issues involved," Commissioner Roger Goodell said in the news release. "The Cowboys have been fully cooperative as we have addressed this subject, and we will continue to work closely with the club on a longer term resolution."

We'll defer our opinions regarding this matter to the next set of PFTV segments, which we'll be shooting later today. In the interim, we invite PFT Planet to sound off.

Actually, you already have been. We hope we haven't interrupted your rhythm.


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15 years ago

Murph says: August 28, 2009 11:11 AM

This will sure beat spiking the ball or throwing the ball out of bounds. QB's targeting that thing will be the new time out/escape from pressure.



He has a point. The ball will be declared dead at the moment it hits the screen, so it won't count as an incompletion. I wonder if they'll have to create a penalty for deliberate targeting of the display?
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Geez------well, he DID put it 5 feet higher then required.
But you'd THINK he'd make it even higher, just in case. But the guy has never been one to let ANYONE tell him what to do.
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I've never been against Jones on this issue. He may have an issue (being the Cowgirls owner and all), but this, was always a non-issue.

I still laugh at the people blaming Jones for this media circus. It's the same as those that call Favre the prima-dona when the media makes it a circus.
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Forgot to mention that since the Cowgirls actually followed the NFL rule, that if it needs to be moved (which I think is pretty obvious.. but we'll find out this season), the NFL needs to pay for the move. Not Jerry Jones or the Cowgirls.
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15 years ago
I'm really curious what all the following phrase entails:

moving the massive HD screen up . . . has been reported to make it inoperable



What does this mean? Is it connected to an extension cord that isn't long enough to allow it to be raised?

Overall, if Jerry Jones has complied with all pertinent NFL regulations, I don't see any reason for the display to be moved. It's incumbent upon punters to aim their kicks properly, not upon Jones to accommodate every punter who may not have enough skill to avoid the display.
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I dunno. But here's my sthick..

NFL 'Preferential' Treatment of the Cowboys? 


Our own suspicion is that the league bowed to Jerry Jones on this one because the league sensed that he was prepared to go to the mattresses in order to preserve his football cathedral as it was designed and envisioned. With acrimonious labor negotiations on the horizon, it likely made much more sense to keep Jones happy at a time when, if he'd been told to move his swanky new big-screen televisions, he would have been anything but.

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Ok, there are times when I agree with Mike.. This is not one of them.

Are you kidding, Florio?! First off, you can't tell me that the league had NO clue of Jones' plans of his 'football cathedral' (I will say this.. It's awesomely huge). Am I wrong in thinking that there is a team of NFL officials that overlook and review teams' proposed design plans for new stadiums being built? Even if there isn't.. Ughh.. Mike? Yeah.. Jones still put his gigantitron above league standards.

My solution? The NFL records the height of every punt this season. Rewrite the rule as per those results. And then pay for any moving of said obstructions that happen to currently reside below the new height standards.

Goodell, you lose this fight. Give it up.
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It's incumbent upon punters to aim their kicks properly, not upon Jones to accommodate every punter who may not have enough skill to avoid the display.

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This I think is wrong. A punter is taught to get as much hang time as they can while getting the ball down field. That's why the league is letting them have do overs when they hit the screen.

That said, since Jerry Jones did follow the NFL regulations he shouldn't be held accountable for this. The NFL should have to pay for any adjustments necessary to move it up. What baffles me is what you quoted non, the fact that moving it up makes it inoperable. Is it on some retractable supports from the ceiling that cut off it's power source when it's moved up or what?
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plan and simple the guy is a idiot who is able to do everything he wants to do, i just hope one day when he comes down to the field during the game someone steamrolls right over him so he never comes down where he doesnt belong in the 1st place !!
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