15 years ago
HOW exactly is Favre a victim?? Let's rehash. Kid grows up with his own dad teaching him football, from a young age. Plays football in college. Manages to make it to the NFL on God given skill, in spite of the fact that he doesn't even know what a nickel defense is (years into his career). After a trade, he drinks his way through his first couple of successful seasons in Green Bay. Wins a Superbowl. Gets addicted to painkillers. Almost loses his wife and family. Decides to tone it down a bit. Plays out the peak of his career in one town, where the fans adore him, even though they never make it back to the Superbowl in the years after '97, including some downright horrible performances in the playoffs. Retires. Unretires. Traded to the Jets as a young and promising QB in Green Bay prepares and studies his ass off to take over for a team and realize HIS dream of being a starting NFL quarterback. Holds an irrational grudge against said young quarterback. Ceases speaking to him. Doesn't return his calls or texts. Has an unlikely hot start to his season, jumpstarted by a Week 1 victory when he throws a wobbly lob pass into the deep middle of the field, where his receiver somehow comes down with it in the endzone surrounded by 3 defenders. A late INT in the endzone secures a victory. As the season wears on, an injury helps in wearing him down, leading to a slump and bad second half of the season, while the Jets miss the playoffs in a division where everybody seemed to be scared of the postseason. Retires again. Wants to unretire again. Finds a possible partner in an old buddy on an ex-division rival team. Perfect situation for him as he wants to stick it to his old GM and front office. Jamie Dukes supports him, feels sorry for him, and calls him a victim. Brett's pockets take a deep breath, readying themselves for the influx of even more millions of dollars.

So how is he a victim?
UserPostedImage
DakotaT
15 years ago
All I have to say is that if Favre truly wanted to play football, why isn't he wearing a Jet uniform this season? When one of the Favre firster people can explain this to me, I am willing to listen.

Until that happens, I am going to insist that Brett's only motivation to play is so that he can "stick to Ted Thompson". This is not a righteous reason to come back and play when you're 40 and rapidly deteriorating.

I don't want to hear about winning a super bowl because the Vikings have more holes than we do. It is unrealistic and I'm willing to bet 93's good leg on it.
UserPostedImage
dingus
15 years ago

Not enough evidence and proven false are 2 entirely different things. It is very hard to prove tampering, let's see where the Titans end up w/ the Haynesworth charges.

"porky88" wrote:




I'm not sure tampering charges can ever be technically "proven false"

How would that be done?


The NFL ruled on it and the ruling was false. You and I have nothing to base anything on but apparently the NFL does. I tend to believe them over you.

Unless you know something the NFL doesn't. If you do please share.

"dd80forever" wrote:



Tampering goes on all over the NFL. It's just insanely hard to prove.

Favre probably did talk with Childress and Bevalle and the talk of him playing there more than likely came up.

The problem is you can't fine two guys for talking to a friend and it's impossible to prove that they indeed did talk about it because they'll just deny and say that they were talking about hunting for example.

I guess my point is.

1. It probably happened.

2. It probably wasn't the first and only time it did happen.

3. Packers are probably guilty of tampering in the past as well and they'll be guilty of tampering in the future too.

4. So will the Vikings again.

Proving it is a different story.

"dingus" wrote:



My point exactly
blank
dingus
15 years ago

All I have to say is that if Favre truly wanted to play football, why isn't he wearing a Jet uniform this season? When one of the Favre firster people can explain this to me, I am willing to listen.

Until that happens, I am going to insist that Brett's only motivation to play is so that he can "stick to Ted Thompson". This is not a righteous reason to come back and play when you're 40 and rapidly deteriorating.

I don't want to hear about winning a super bowl because the Vikings have more holes than we do. It is unrealistic and I'm willing to bet 93's good leg on it.

"DakotaT" wrote:



+1
blank
dd80forever
15 years ago

All I have to say is that if Favre truly wanted to play football, why isn't he wearing a Jet uniform this season? When one of the Favre firster people can explain this to me, I am willing to listen.

Until that happens, I am going to insist that Brett's only motivation to play is so that he can "stick to Ted Thompson". This is not a righteous reason to come back and play when you're 40 and rapidly deteriorating.

I don't want to hear about winning a super bowl because the Vikings have more holes than we do. It is unrealistic and I'm willing to bet 93's good leg on it.

"DakotaT" wrote:




There are plenty of FA still out there. Vonnie Holliday must not want to play football either. Mark Tauscher as well. So if we sign a FA from here forward that guy is not a dedicated player?

He just had surgery. I think it would be smart to see if he's able to play before someone signs him.

The fact is you make Jamie Dukes point all the better. If he wants to come back, and the Vikings will sign him, either tomorrow or the day before the season starts, he should do so. It's just sad that that ultra-competitor that you loved when he was in GB is degraded for being the same guy going forward. He ruined your fairy-tale ending, face-it, and that is why you are mad.
blank
15 years ago

All I have to say is that if Favre truly wanted to play football, why isn't he wearing a Jet uniform this season? When one of the Favre firster people can explain this to me, I am willing to listen.

Until that happens, I am going to insist that Brett's only motivation to play is so that he can "stick to Ted Thompson". This is not a righteous reason to come back and play when you're 40 and rapidly deteriorating.

I don't want to hear about winning a super bowl because the Vikings have more holes than we do. It is unrealistic and I'm willing to bet 93's good leg on it.

"DakotaT" wrote:



Well one reason would be the grumbling that occurred in NY shortly after Favre arrived there. Coles for one was not happy about the situation. At least in Minnesota he'd have some "allies" in people like Bevell.
UserPostedImage
DakotaT
15 years ago

All I have to say is that if Favre truly wanted to play football, why isn't he wearing a Jet uniform this season? When one of the Favre firster people can explain this to me, I am willing to listen.

Until that happens, I am going to insist that Brett's only motivation to play is so that he can "stick to Ted Thompson". This is not a righteous reason to come back and play when you're 40 and rapidly deteriorating.

I don't want to hear about winning a super bowl because the Vikings have more holes than we do. It is unrealistic and I'm willing to bet 93's good leg on it.

"dd80forever" wrote:




There are plenty of FA still out there. Vonnie Holliday must not want to play football either. Mark Tauscher as well. So if we sign a FA from here forward that guy is not a dedicated player?

He just had surgery. I think it would be smart to see if he's able to play before someone signs him.

The fact is you make Jamie Dukes point all the better. If he wants to come back, and the Vikings will sign him, either tomorrow or the day before the season starts, he should do so. It's just sad that that ultra-competitor that you loved when he was in GB is degraded for being the same guy going forward. He ruined your fairy-tale ending, face-it, and that is why you are mad.

"DakotaT" wrote:




First of all, one reason I'm mad right now is that Favre is allowed to retire, unretire, retire and unretire again to circumvent rules set in place by the NFL. The second reason I'm mad is that I don't want to see him in purple period, I will admit that.

A fairy tale ending for me would have been in '07, but unfortunately, the reveared one had to chuck up some quail so he could get to the locker room faster to warm up.
UserPostedImage
dd80forever
15 years ago

All I have to say is that if Favre truly wanted to play football, why isn't he wearing a Jet uniform this season? When one of the Favre firster people can explain this to me, I am willing to listen.

Until that happens, I am going to insist that Brett's only motivation to play is so that he can "stick to Ted Thompson". This is not a righteous reason to come back and play when you're 40 and rapidly deteriorating.

I don't want to hear about winning a super bowl because the Vikings have more holes than we do. It is unrealistic and I'm willing to bet 93's good leg on it.

"DakotaT" wrote:




There are plenty of FA still out there. Vonnie Holliday must not want to play football either. Mark Tauscher as well. So if we sign a FA from here forward that guy is not a dedicated player?

He just had surgery. I think it would be smart to see if he's able to play before someone signs him.

The fact is you make Jamie Dukes point all the better. If he wants to come back, and the Vikings will sign him, either tomorrow or the day before the season starts, he should do so. It's just sad that that ultra-competitor that you loved when he was in GB is degraded for being the same guy going forward. He ruined your fairy-tale ending, face-it, and that is why you are mad.

"dd80forever" wrote:




First of all, one reason I'm mad right now is that Favre is allowed to retire, unretire, retire and unretire again to circumvent rules set in place by the NFL. The second reason I'm mad is that I don't want to see him in purple period, I will admit that.

A fairy tale ending for me would have been in '07, but unfortunately, the reveared one had to chuck up some quail so he could get to the locker room faster to warm up.

"DakotaT" wrote:




Why does that anger you? What difference does it make. Do you think the NFL needs to step in. What rule has Brett Favre broke?


With your attitude it's no wonder Brett would want to stick it to GB. NFC Championship game in OT and he makes a bad throw and somehow that id worse than going 6-10 and not making the playoffs at all. Thats failed logic.
blank
dingus
15 years ago
Going 6-10 was a team effort as was going 13-3 and making it to the NFCCG. The D saved Favre Almighty's ass a couple of times in 07 and failed miserably more often than not in 08. That's not to take anything away from the season Favre had in 07 or cover AR's ass in 08. I don't think we would have made the playoffs last year with 4 behind center and if we did it would have been another one and done because the D was atrocious in 08 and injuries were not < the injuries in 05.

IMO Favre played this offseason pefectly, he's getting what he wanted all along and if anyone thinks this wasn't his plan from the beginning I've got a bridge to sell you in San Fran. He is one shrewd SOB and He REALLY wants to beat the only team he never has.

Victim is one thing Favre Almighty is not.
blank
DakotaT
15 years ago

All I have to say is that if Favre truly wanted to play football, why isn't he wearing a Jet uniform this season? When one of the Favre firster people can explain this to me, I am willing to listen.

Until that happens, I am going to insist that Brett's only motivation to play is so that he can "stick to Ted Thompson". This is not a righteous reason to come back and play when you're 40 and rapidly deteriorating.

I don't want to hear about winning a super bowl because the Vikings have more holes than we do. It is unrealistic and I'm willing to bet 93's good leg on it.

"dd80forever" wrote:




There are plenty of FA still out there. Vonnie Holliday must not want to play football either. Mark Tauscher as well. So if we sign a FA from here forward that guy is not a dedicated player?

He just had surgery. I think it would be smart to see if he's able to play before someone signs him.

The fact is you make Jamie Dukes point all the better. If he wants to come back, and the Vikings will sign him, either tomorrow or the day before the season starts, he should do so. It's just sad that that ultra-competitor that you loved when he was in GB is degraded for being the same guy going forward. He ruined your fairy-tale ending, face-it, and that is why you are mad.

"DakotaT" wrote:




First of all, one reason I'm mad right now is that Favre is allowed to retire, unretire, retire and unretire again to circumvent rules set in place by the NFL. The second reason I'm mad is that I don't want to see him in purple period, I will admit that.

A fairy tale ending for me would have been in '07, but unfortunately, the reveared one had to chuck up some quail so he could get to the locker room faster to warm up.

"dd80forever" wrote:




Why does that anger you? What difference does it make. Do you think the NFL needs to step in. What rule has Brett Favre broke?


With your attitude it's no wonder Brett would want to stick it to GB. NFC Championship game in OT and he makes a bad throw and somehow that id worse than going 6-10 and not making the playoffs at all. Thats failed logic.

"DakotaT" wrote:




Because it is all calculated for Brett to get to the Vikings. Are you Fvcking blind?

Makes a bad throw, he is a seasoned Vet running the same offense for 16 years and he can't read a check down? The Giants gift wrapped that game to us, but someone had to piss it down his leg.

Get over yourself on 08 and 6-10, it's tiresome and your argument has ran it's course.. We were in every game except 2, but unfortunately we didn't get the breaks, and we were beat up on Defense, whereas in 07 we were relatively injury free. If you can't recogninze that than I feel sorry for you. In 07 we weren't really piss throttling anyone until late in the season. 34-0 over the Vikings, I will cherish forever though.
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
buckeyepackfan (9h) : Sorry 13 mil guaranteed.
buckeyepackfan (9h) : Aaron Jones resigns with The Vikings. 2yr 20mil, 12mil guaranteed.
Zero2Cool (10h) : Adams preffered west coast.
buckeyepackfan (10h) : DeShaun Watson wants a new deal! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
buckeyepackfan (10h) : Josh Allen extension includes 250mil in GUARANTEED money!
buckeyepackfan (10h) : Metcalf traded to The Steelers. Every year I forget this is Misinformation time. Have to quit listening to "The talking heads" 😀
dhazer (11h) : or do we tell them we take metcalf you take alexander lol
dhazer (11h) : I am curious about if we waste money on Metcalf he isn't worth $30 million a year
dhazer (11h) : Adams is going to a good team and gets to play indoors majority of the time can't blame him and isn't he from Fresno?
Zero2Cool (12h) : Rams land Adams of Davante fame.
Martha Careful (13h) : it's funny how guys who are so desperate to play for championships, at least so they say, just take the money.
Mucky Tundra (14h) : Semantics ;)
Zero2Cool (14h) : They didn't return. They didn't even leave! ;-)
Mucky Tundra (15h) : Crosby and Garrett return to their respective teams; truckloads of $$$ solved any problems they had
dhazer (18h) : Russell Wilson will be back in Seattle as a bridge
Zero2Cool (19h) : Bills are releasing pass rusher Von Miller, per sources.
Zero2Cool (19h) : From trade to truce and beyond: the Browns and Myles Garrett reached agreement today on a record contract extension that averages $40m
TheKanataThrilla (8-Mar) : I could actually see Seattle inquiring about Willis.
TheKanataThrilla (8-Mar) : If we took a flyer on a QB, I like Kyle McCord out of Syaracuse. Keep Willis definitely, but don't turn down a good trade.
Mucky Tundra (8-Mar) : RB Kareem Hunt as well
Zero2Cool (8-Mar) : Tyreek Hill also arrested before or during Chiefs time for assault.
Martha Careful (8-Mar) : Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Xavier Worthy was arrested for assault. They are now even more likely to supplement the WR position
Mucky Tundra (8-Mar) : So weak I had to say it twice!
Mucky Tundra (8-Mar) : But it feels like a weak QB draft class
Mucky Tundra (8-Mar) : But it feels like a weak QB draft class
Mucky Tundra (8-Mar) : I suppose that puts Seattle in play for a QB in the 1st round this year
Mucky Tundra (8-Mar) : Gotta say, didn't see Geno getting traded from the Seahawks
Zero2Cool (8-Mar) : Breer: Seahawks offered the Raiders Geno Smith and DK Metcalf for EDGE Maxx Crosby; Raiders "quickly" declined.
Zero2Cool (8-Mar) : It has 2019 Packers schedule.. yeah, I be slowly coding haha
Zero2Cool (8-Mar) : Finally got the 'new' PackersHome online...
Zero2Cool (8-Mar) : Nice work Seahawks!
dhazer (8-Mar) : wow Geno Smith to the Raiders for a 3rd rounder
Zero2Cool (6-Mar) : Good deal too
Martha Careful (6-Mar) : Maxx Crosby resigned by Raiders
Zero2Cool (6-Mar) : Chargers release Joey Bosa
Zero2Cool (4-Mar) : Appears Jets released Adams. It'll be official in few hours.
Zero2Cool (3-Mar) : We have re-signed LB Isaiah McDuffie
Zero2Cool (2-Mar) : Jets taking calls for Davante Adams. That $38m cap number hurting lol
Zero2Cool (2-Mar) : Guess it's not official until the 12th
Zero2Cool (2-Mar) : Deebo went for a 5th to Commanders?
Martha Careful (1-Mar) : Just like my late husband!!
Zero2Cool (1-Mar) : Once fired up, it should be good
Zero2Cool (1-Mar) : Sometimes, the first page load will be slow. it's firing up the site.
Martha Careful (1-Mar) : The site is operating much faster...tyvm
Mucky Tundra (28-Feb) : It's the offseason and the draft is still nearly 2 months away, what can ya do?🤷‍♂️
Zero2Cool (27-Feb) : NFL teams were notified today that the 2025 salary cap has been set at $279,200,000 per club.
Zero2Cool (27-Feb) : sssllllooooow
Martha Careful (27-Feb) : is it just me, or has the website been slow the last couple of days?
buckeyepackfan (26-Feb) : Damnit 2026 2nd rnd pick!
buckeyepackfan (26-Feb) : Packers get Myles Garret and Browns 2926 2nd rnd pick.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

6-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

6-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

4-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

4-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

4-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

3-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

3-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

1-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

1-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

1-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

28-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

28-Feb / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

27-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.