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Green Bay Packers quarterback Jordan Love will not practice until he and the team agree to a contract extension, general manager Brian Gutekunst said Monday.

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Trevor Lawrence signed a five-year, $275 million deal that included $200 million in guarantees last month. I guess that rumor about five years $280m might not be so crazy after all. I also feel Trevor is a little over rated, but gosh, Jordan Love has just one starting season under his belt and only about ten good-great games.
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Not surprising that he is not practicing without the extension. What if he went out there (God forbid) and got hurt?
I just hope they get this done quick. While none of us know what aspects of the contract are behind the impasse, it would be very disappointing to learn that the Packers "side" dragged their feet as opposed to the Love "side" having done so. I strongly suspect the latter, and that is understandable in retrospect as other qb deals that have come to light since May.
The market is the market, and I do not like that aspect, but another way to say the same thing- It is what it is.

Shit. Damn. Hell.


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This makes me feel a little less poopie.

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QB Sean Clifford on Jordan Love: “He’s not in California. He’s here. He’s at every single meeting. He’s been through all OTAs. Now, he has to handle what he has to handle…. It speaks volumes of who he is and his character.”
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I understand why Love is doing what he is doing. Still he hasn't put in enough time to get the big boy deal, IMHO. Politics are in everything. He's the franchise QB and wants to be paid like he is. If he wouldn't be offended and pout I would give him another two year deal this time for $40 mil a year. Put up numbers for a whole year like he did the last half of last season and I would tear up the extension and give him the full deal.

Not possible.
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I trust he is our QB for our next SB win. Sign him
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I understand why Love is doing what he is doing. Still he hasn't put in enough time to get the big boy deal, IMHO. Politics are in everything. He's the franchise QB and wants to be paid like he is. If he wouldn't be offended and pout I would give him another two year deal this time for $40 mil a year. Put up numbers for a whole year like he did the last half of last season and I would tear up the extension and give him the full deal.

Not possible.

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Blame it on the mediocre young QBs who set the market. Cant fault Love for asking what Trevor gets when being better than him
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I understand why Love is doing what he is doing. Still he hasn't put in enough time to get the big boy deal, IMHO. Politics are in everything. He's the franchise QB and wants to be paid like he is. If he wouldn't be offended and pout I would give him another two year deal this time for $40 mil a year. Put up numbers for a whole year like he did the last half of last season and I would tear up the extension and give him the full deal.

Not possible.

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I am with you Wayne on it seems awfully soon to merit what he'll probably eventually get. And that's highest paid player in NFL history over just 10 really good to great games.

I wonder though is what if they do ink him for 5 years at $280 million -- does that become a steal in 2-3 years? Do guys like Kyler Murray or Geno Smith get new deals hitting $65m per year?

I guess I'm torn. I think it's too soon to anoint him the next great QB and paid accordingly, but also wonder if paying him elite cash now saves the Packers millions later. Another aspect to this is I am a cautious believer he's the franchise QB for another decade. On the other hand though, what if he's Carson Wentz II? It's easy to have that slip our minds that someone like Wentz was heralded as the next greatest QB and then voila, he's battling Dave Krieg and Jeff George for the number of teams he's played for.
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I am with you Wayne on it seems awfully soon to merit what he'll probably eventually get. And that's highest paid player in NFL history over just 10 really good to great games.

I wonder though is what if they do ink him for 5 years at $280 million -- does that become a steal in 2-3 years? Do guys like Kyler Murray or Geno Smith get new deals hitting $65m per year?

I guess I'm torn. I think it's too soon to anoint him the next great QB and paid accordingly, but also wonder if paying him elite cash now saves the Packers millions later. Another aspect to this is I am a cautious believer he's the franchise QB for another decade. On the other hand though, what if he's Carson Wentz II? It's easy to have that slip our minds that someone like Wentz was heralded as the next greatest QB and then voila, he's battling Dave Krieg and Jeff George for the number of teams he's played for.

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1. Yes.
2. Probably not. They will be out of the league. Replaced by the "next great QB" to come along. Murray signed through 27 or 28. Team option. He will be 30 or 31. Part of his mystic was his running ability. He won't have it then. Geno Smith is 34. His best days are long gone. (Such as they were.) I realize you didn't mean those two specifically rather QBs like them. The league drafts 5-6 QBs every year that are going to be starting QBs within a couple of years. There is going to be QB turnover every year.
3. Really immaterial. As the cap increases so do the contracts. It's a given. Ten years ago who would have thought a WR would be getting $30,000,000? Miami's, Tyreek Hill. Back then only 5 players received more than $10 mil. Ironically Miami also had the top paid WR in 2014 Mike Wallace $17 mil. Neither player has given them a trip to the Super Bowl. Today $55 mil is top money for the QB. Next year it will probably be $60 then $65. A better question is how much of the team's salary cap is devoted to any one player? That will usually remain pretty constant.


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One would think there could be some incentives (a Super Bowl?) which, if achieved, would make him the highest paid QB and could be a win-win, but otherwise he would be in that top 6-10 range.
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Contracts are often determined based on percentage of cap of the year when signed.

Because the cap jumped a ton, Love potentially can get a percentage of cap in 2024 a lot lower than a number of other starters, compared to the year those players signed their deals and STILL be the highest paid player in the league.

You can't fault Love for the NFL market basing contracts based on percentage of cap of the year when signed, and you can't fault Love for the NFL cap going up.

Let him be the highest paid until a good starting QB gets a new deal and let's hope that Love earns it.
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I'm glad that no one is badgering Jordan Love for his decision. Everyone is basically, yeah, deal should have been done already. Be smart, hold-in until signed. It's nice to see no one holding against Love.

That said, I think the Packers might be costing themselves more money each day it's not done. That is if the rumor about Rayne Prescott being in line for $60m a year is to be true.

As long as Love has a couple practices before final preseason game and gets a couple drives in that game. I won't panic. We open vs conference opponent, but thankfully not division so the longer season (17 games not 16, oohh so much longer) makes me worry less about coming out of the gates firing. Plus, the BYE being in November plays into it too -- for me.
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I'm glad that no one is badgering Jordan Love for his decision. Everyone is basically, yeah, deal should have been done already. Be smart, hold-in until signed. It's nice to see no one holding against Love.

That said, I think the Packers might be costing themselves more money each day it's not done. That is if the rumor about Rayne Prescott being in line for $60m a year is to be true.

As long as Love has a couple practices before final preseason game and gets a couple drives in that game. I won't panic. We open vs conference opponent, but thankfully not division so the longer season (17 games not 16, oohh so much longer) makes me worry less about coming out of the gates firing. Plus, the BYE being in November plays into it too -- for me.

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No way. MLF said. "The guys have to wake up with their piss hot." So he expects them to be ready week 1.
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No way. MLF said. "The guys have to wake up with their piss hot." So he expects them to be ready week 1.

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Quite true. I just personally couldn't care less how hot their piss is through the first quarter of the season. I'm in the mindset of Bill Bellichick where he liked those first four games to try different things and see what works, and iron out some stuff and then strike it hot during the last half. That's when I want my team to be pissing hot... when the weeks hit double digits.
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Quite true. I just personally couldn't care less how hot their piss is through the first quarter of the season. I'm in the mindset of Bill Bellichick where he liked those first four games to try different things and see what works, and iron out some stuff and then strike it hot during the last half. That's when I want my team to be pissing hot... when the weeks hit double digits.

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Who am I to argue strategy with a coach as great as Billacheat?

That said a win in Sept or Oct is just as valuable as one in December. Jump out fast and build a 3-4 game lead in the division and don't look back. If injuries creep in during the season, starting fast give a team a cushion to readjust. Starting slow, like the Packers have done so many times doesn't prove any leeway.
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Who am I to argue strategy with a coach as great as Billacheat?

That said a win in Sept or Oct is just as valuable as one in December. Jump out fast and build a 3-4 game lead in the division and don't look back. If injuries creep in during the season, starting fast give a team a cushion to readjust. Starting slow, like the Packers have done so many times doesn't prove any leeway.

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I'm not sure it's only a Belichick strategy. I think I've heard it elsewhere too. But there is a lot more to it. If your first four opponents play heavy 3-4 base without any pressure and rarely go to Nickel/Dime, but the remaining opponents are blitz/pressure heavy out of sub-packages. That would change things for the offensive scheming.

You take wins where ever you get them. The strategy is to use live games to learn what works and how it works. I'm not saying treat them as toss away games. Although, with the schedule changes, they kind of are less important as the division games tend to be crowded in the later weeks of the schedule.

Our first four games are one division, one conference and two non-conference.
Our final four games are all in our conference and two division.

So, if one wanted to "argue" they could say the final four games are more valuable than the first four. 🤷‍♂️ Who wants to argue though? They're gonna just win all 17 anyway! 😁

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