Should Packers draft Tua Tagovailoa in NFL Draft 2020?· Page 2

gbguy20
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5 years ago

It's too early to draft Rodgers replacement. We should be in win now mode for the next few years. We don't have a chance to get this guy anyway.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

#12

It's too early to draft Rodgers replacement. We should be in win now mode for the next few years. We don't have a chance to get this guy anyway.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

This kind of thinking in 2005 would have cost us Super Bowl XLV.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#13

This kind of thinking in 2005 would have cost us Super Bowl XLV.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Completely agree. I don't expect to catch lightning in a bottle 3x in a row anyway, so I say maximize everything we can while we have Rodgers.

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Cheesey
Preferred Member

5 years ago

#14

That’s my line of thinking. We have Rodgers, and the chances of getting a third HOF QB are slim to none. So you better go all in if you want a super bowl championship.
If you can pick up a good QB to take ARs place when he retires, then do it.
But chances are, with the late round pick we will have, your chances of getting lucky like we did with Rodgers is very remote.

go.pack.go.
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Especially since it seems like there are anywhere from 2-5 QB’s taken in the top 15 every year now. The year we got Rodgers, he was only the 2nd QB taken and he was a projected first overall pick. That would never happen today I don’t believe. Especially since the NFL has gone to such a pass happy league.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

#16

The league has gone the way of being pass happy? It was like that 15 years ago too. The difference is the added rules for protecting a QB.

I'm not sure how using a 3rd round pick on a QB sets us back too far.

I wouldn't advocate trading into the top 10 to grab a QB.

I can't imagine the Packers using a 1st round pick on any of the QB's this season unless Joe Burrows (or MAYBE Justin Herbert) drops to 32nd.

I sure as hell am not going to just sand bag it because "chances of getting 3rd Hall of Fame QB are slim". Forget that! The past is written, the future is not! LET'S GET IT!

Cheesey
Preferred Member

5 years ago

#17

“The past is written, the future is not”.......I wonder if they said that right before drafting Tony Manderich?
Fact is, there are no “sure things” in the NFL draft.
Yes, we need to be looking for Rodgers replacement. But the immediate future might get a super bowl win if they can get one or two excellent players. Rodgers had an off year, yet we are still in the running for the Lombardi trophy.
The future is NOW. Don’t blow it! You might not get there again for a long time, or maybe never.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

#18

“The past is written, the future is not”.......I wonder if they said that right before drafting Tony Manderich?
Fact is, there are no “sure things” in the NFL draft.

Yes, we need to be looking for Rodgers replacement. But the immediate future might get a super bowl win if they can get one or two excellent players. Rodgers had an off year, yet we are still in the running for the Lombardi trophy.

The future is NOW. Don’t blow it! You might not get there again for a long time, or maybe never.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

It was probably not said because I wasn't as wise at 9 years old as I am now.

Difference for me between 2005 and 2020 draft is this...
2005 roster - in my opinion was a bare cupboard and old.
2020 roster - in my opinion is handful (starter or two and some depth) of players away no question contender.

Therefore, I am saying I'm good if the Packers were to use 1st round pick on Joe Burrows OR 3rd round pick on Tua Tagovailoa in the upcoming draft.

I am not saying we should use 1st round pick on just ANY QB that is there -- so relax your damn tits. I am saying the only QB worth our first round pick (to me) is Joe Burrows. And if Tua Tagovailoa is there when we are picking in the 3rd round, I would be good with taking him.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

5 years ago

#19

Oh....Zero....I think you are just as wise now as you were when you were 9! 🤪

And.....my “tits” ARE relaxed!!!

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

#20

Oh....Zero....I think you are just as wise now as you were when you were 9! 🤪

And.....my “tits” ARE relaxed!!!

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Fair point! 😎🤣

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