yooperfan
4 years ago

No. Too many injuries and we have too many other needs. I don’t see him making it to us at our first pick, much less one of our later round picks.

I also think we should wait 3 or so more years before we draft Rodgers’ replacement.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 


I just don't have a lot of faith that Rodgers will be able to play at a high level for 3 more years.
It seems that injury and age are running him down.
He's still better than average but his performance this year is not.
Just my gut feeling.

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4 years ago
NO, unless it is round 3 or later. he will be gone by then
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Nonstopdrivel
4 years ago

you better go all in if you want a super bowl championship.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


Who's to say that going all in doesn't entail drafting a potential franchise quarterback if the opportunity presents itself? The Packers are one injury away at having no chance at a Super Bowl. It sure would be nice to finally have a season in which we didn't have to give up all hope if the starting quarterback goes down.

Should Green Bay trade up to grab a quarterback early? Definitely not. Should they hesitate to pull the trigger if a talented prospect falls to them? I don't think so.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Who's to say that going all in doesn't entail drafting a potential franchise quarterback if the opportunity presents itself? The Packers are one injury away at having no chance at a Super Bowl. It sure would be nice to finally have a season in which we didn't have to give up all hope if the starting quarterback goes down.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Hell, imagine all the talent that could be put around a rising QB with saving all this cash???

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gbguy20
4 years ago

The league has gone the way of being pass happy? It was like that 15 years ago too. The difference is the added rules for protecting a QB.

I'm not sure how using a 3rd round pick on a QB sets us back too far.

I wouldn't advocate trading into the top 10 to grab a QB.

I can't imagine the Packers using a 1st round pick on any of the QB's this season unless Joe Burrows (or MAYBE Justin Herbert) drops to 32nd.

I sure as hell am not going to just sand bag it because "chances of getting 3rd Hall of Fame QB are slim". Forget that! The past is written, the future is not! LET'S GET IT!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Sure. Use a 3rd round pick if you think he's the guy. But I thought we were talking about tua, who will be gone in the first half the 1st, if not right away....

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go.pack.go.
4 years ago

Sure. Use a 3rd round pick if you think he's the guy. But I thought we were talking about tua, who will be gone in the first half the 1st, if not right away....

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



That’s exactly my point. 0% chance of us drafting Tua in the 3rd round at our pick.
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go.pack.go.
4 years ago

Who's to say that going all in doesn't entail drafting a potential franchise quarterback if the opportunity presents itself? The Packers are one injury away at having no chance at a Super Bowl. It sure would be nice to finally have a season in which we didn't have to give up all hope if the starting quarterback goes down.

Should Green Bay trade up to grab a quarterback early? Definitely not. Should they hesitate to pull the trigger if a talented prospect falls to them? I don't think so.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



I think just about every NFL team feels that way. Except for the 2017 Eagles.
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earthquake
4 years ago

That’s exactly my point. 0% chance of us drafting Tua in the 3rd round at our pick.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



Yeah. I mean let's be honest here. If the 1st rated QB is sitting there in the late first, you take him. If the 3rd rated QB is sitting there in the late 3rd you take him. But we can say the same thing for WR, DE, DT, TE, S, CB, ILB, OT, G, pretty much any position other than punter or kicker, this sort of logic is pretty sound. Now, is it realistic that the top rated QB will make to the end of the 1st round? Or the 3rd to the end of the 3rd round? Recent history tells us: hell no, some qb needy team will trade up to the first half of the first round to grab these guys.

Now, I don't know enough about the college players to say who is the #1/2/3 QB in the draft, so I'll go with Walter Football's ranking  which has Tua at #3.. Let's look at what position the 3rd QB was selected over the last decade:
2019: 15
2018: 7
2017: 12
2016: 26
2015: 75
2014: 32
2013: 73
2012: 8
2011: 10
2010: 48

That's an average position of #31 for the 3rd QB taken, in other words, they don't generally make it out of the first round. So, if Tua is sitting there at the end of the 3rd, absolutely take him. But he likely won't be, unless the argument is that he's maybe the 5th or 6th best QB in the draft - or if his injury problems are a big concern or something like that (in which case even in the 3rd it may not be a slam dunk).

With the way rookie contracts are structured now, I think the days of grabbing the #2 or #3 QB in the draft (rated going in, not with hindsight) in the back end of the 1st round are over, let alone in the late 2nd/3rd. There's usually plenty of teams willing to drop a 1st (or more, see: Bears) on a guy they think is going to be pretty good. There's enough teams that don't want to make an Aaron Rodgers / Russell Wilson type mistake, one of them will in all likelihood grab Tua well before the third.
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Nonstopdrivel
4 years ago

Hell, imagine all the talent that could be put around a rising QB with saving all this cash???

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


As usual, I can't tell if you're being ironic. Green Bay is only paying Aaron Rodgers about $7.2 million in cash this year, although his cap hit and dead cap certainly combine for an eye-watering sum.
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beast
4 years ago
He's not gonna get to the Packers 2nd round pick... unless he has major I jury concerns where he might be off our board completely. 1st or pass. If anything, I'll do a cheap one or two year deal with Marcus Mariota, if LaFleur liked him, when they worked together.
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