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Writers are split on Green Bay’s 2023 haul

Quick reaction draft grades are something like the candy of NFL coverage. They’ll rot your teeth, but it flies off the shelves. According to an analysis done by Football Outsiders in 2020 , grades drastically fluctuate depending on the grader and have little to no predictive power for a class’ future success.


But the consumption of draft grades is more about the feeling of hope for the future than anything rooted in predictive power, anyway. With that being said, here’s how writers around the country think the Green Bay Packers  and general manager Brian Gutekunst did in 2023. As a refresher, the Packers’ draft picks are listed below.


Packers Draft Picks

#13: Lukas Van Ness, OLB, Iowa
#42: Luke Musgrave, TE, Oregon State 
#50: Jayden Reed, WR, Michigan State 
#78: Tucker Kraft, TE, South Dakota State
#116: Colby Wooden, DE, Auburn
#149: Sean Clifford, QB, Penn State
#159: Dontayvion Wicks, WR, Virginia
#179: Karl Brooks, DE, Bowling Green
#207: Anders Carlson, K, Auburn
#232: Carrington Valentine, CB, Kentucky
#235: Lew Nichols III, RB, Central Michigan
#242: Anthony Johnson Jr., SAF, Iowa State 
#256: Grant DuBose, WR, Charlotte

Packers Draft Grades

Mark Phillips - Fansided : A
Ian Cummings - Pro Football Network : A
Chad Reuter - NFL.com : A-
Day 1 grade: A
Day 2 grade: B
Day 3 grade: A
Analysis: I love the potential in Van Ness as a strong edge defender who can play 5 technique. Musgrave (gained with the pick acquired from the Jets in exchange for Aaron Rodgers), Reed (picked slightly earlier than expected) and Kraft (picked slightly later) give new quarterback Jordan Love three young targets with whom he can get familiar this offseason.
Wooden and Brooks will greatly aid a lean defensive-line depth chart. Clifford has third-day intangibles and some physical traits to be a solid backup, though his accuracy was inconsistent throughout his career. Wicks, DuBose (my favorite pick of the group) and Nichols continue the team’s efforts to build talent on offense. Carlson possesses good leg strength but missed 12 field-goal attempts over the past two seasons. Valentine and Johnson were clutch picks for a secondary in need of help.

Pro Football Focus: B+
Sports Illustrated : B+
Danny Kelly - The Ringer : B
The Packers did what the Packers always do in the first round, picking yet another defensive player in Iowa’s Lukas Van Ness. The former Hawkeyes’ standout is a pass-rusher in the mold of Rashan Gary and Preston Smith, and should factor into the team’s rotation early on. On day two, the team finally answered their fans’ pleas, bolstering their skill-player group in support of Jordan Love by grabbing a pair of versatile tight ends in Luke Musgrave (Oregon State) and Tucker Kraft (South Dakota State), along with a twitchy, playmaking receiver in Jayden Reed (Michigan State). GM Brian Gutekunst added another receiver in Virginia Tech ’s Dontayvion Wicks in the fifth round—a draft haul that should be a boon for the team’s new signal caller. Green Bay added former Penn State quarterback Sean Clifford in the fifth round, too—a huge surprise that early in the draft, and perhaps a result of the success of last year’s Mr. Irrelevant, Brock Purdy. Clifford is, hilariously, three months older than Love, who was drafted in 2020.

Fox Sports : B
Nate Davis - USA Today: B
Ryan Dunleavy - The New York Post : B
Evan Silva - Establish the Run : B
Overview: D-Line help and weapons upgrades for Jordan Love were the theme of this nuts-and-bolts draft. Likened to Grant Wistrom and Patrick Kerney by NFL scouts, Van Ness can win inside and out and hold the point of attack. Musgrave and Kraft made for a worthy TE double-down; Musgrave offers legit star quality if he figures out how to stay healthy, while Kraft is a combo tight end who is plenty athletic, can block, and caught 92 balls over the last two years for the Jackrabbits. Wooden was productive enough in college and worked out well enough in Indy to generate some Day 2 buzz before the draft. Reed was productive all four years of his career and especially in the return game, bringing back three punts for TDs and exhibiting dynamism with the ball in his hands. Fifth-rounder Clifford beat out No. 33 pick Will Levis at Penn State, forcing Levis to transfer to Kentucky. DuBose was #EstablishTheRun pre-draft podcast interviewee Mike Renner’s favorite wide receiver sleeper. While I remain skeptical of Love as Green Bay’s long-term quarterback, I do believe GM Brian Gutekunst has set up Love to succeed.

Luke Easterling - Athlon Sports : B
DraftKings Nation : B-
Mark Maske - The Washington Post : B-
Rob Maaddi - The Associated Press : B-
Walter Football : C
Vinnie Iyer - Sporting News : C-

Analysis: Brian Gutekunst first Packers draft without Aaron Rodgers was interesting given the loading up on receiving help from Musgrave, Reed, Kraft and Wicks, but it was a little too heavy on skill positions, missing some needed selections for the offensive line. Clifford was a terrible wasted pick as a far undraftable QB behind Jordan Love. Van Ness and Wooden need a lot of work to help the defense. Brooks and Johnson were their clear best picks, value or otherwise


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I am generally pleased with the players selected.  Giving the draft a score or grade is kind of silly. Even these so-called experts know it's not possible. Yet they continue to do so. Then again, fans like it. c'est la vie
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Martha Careful (2h) : ty bboystyle...fat fingers
bboystyle (2h) : Tom*
Martha Careful (10h) : RIP Packer Safety Tim Brown
beast (27-Apr) : Yeah, but also some of the wording suggestions Jax only pranked called the QB, not the others... and if he had an open spreadsheet & 3 calls
beast (27-Apr) : Thank goodness he's not leaving the Turtle in the Red Tide
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : Cowboys 1st round pick Tyler Booker will indeed be bringing his pet turtle to Dallas with him
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : that contained all prospects info and contact
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : beast, according the Falcons statement Jax came across it on an ipad. If I had to guess, probably an open spread sheet or something
Zero2Cool (27-Apr) : Simmons put up an emoji with cheese.
beast (27-Apr) : Not sure anyone is interested in Isaiah Simmons... Collin Oliver might of taken his potential slot
beast (27-Apr) : I'm going with Jax Ulbrich is not telling the whole truth... he accidentally came across it? Why would a defensive coordinator have a QB #?
Zero2Cool (27-Apr) : He's not that great, but final piece of the script.\
Zero2Cool (27-Apr) : If we add Isaiah Simmons, book your Super Bowl tickets
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : Colts 1st round TE Tyler Warren also got prank called, was that Jax Ulbrich as well?
Zero2Cool (27-Apr) : Jax Ulbrich, Jeff Ulbrich’s son, released an apology for his role in the Shedeur Sanders prank call.
Martha Careful (27-Apr) : apparently he did not participate in practice or play on the east west shrine game nor the NFL combine. The kid was a mediocre spoiled brat
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : Yeah that one that was a super wounded duck that Sanders supporters are highlighting to prove a point
Zero2Cool (27-Apr) : Shough is the guy who missed guys at combine isn't he?
beast (27-Apr) : It's not official until I'm dead! I have a chance still! (Not really)
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : I could feel my body decomposing in real time when I read that
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : @MIKEYSAINRISTIL Tyler Shough will officially be the last person drafted to the NFL born in the 1900’s
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : saw the tweet, he meant the city
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : Was that for the team or the city?
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 3m Draft grade is in: Green Bay gets an A. The people, the city, the venue were all superb. NFL Draft’s next
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Matt LaFleur says Jaire Alexander is participating in #Packers offseason program, which has been conducted virtually during this first week
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : ✅ ...
buckeyepackfan (26-Apr) : Check
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Matthew Golden cahanged 81 to 22??
TheKanataThrilla (26-Apr) : Sam Howell to Vikings...guess no Aaron
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : 1 round 7 min, with one extra minute if there is a trade. 2nd round 4 minutes, 3rd -3, 2 thereafter IMO
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Agree
dfosterf (26-Apr) : Great idea imo
dfosterf (26-Apr) : 1st round to 7 minutes with one extension
dfosterf (26-Apr) : NFL comissioner wants to shorten the 2st
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : @jalenreagors They’re discussing if Sheduer can go back to college on NFL Network LMFAOOOOO
beast (26-Apr) : Great point Martha
beast (26-Apr) : Buddy Ryan used to say if a candy bar goes missing, there are two to blame, Rex and Rob 🤪 jk 😁
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Bum Phillips used to say there are two ways to get better. Get better players or get players to play better. We have a new DL coach
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Yes. Look at the losses last year. They can win.
beast (26-Apr) : Can Packers win with their current DL?
bboystyle (26-Apr) : waiting for a pass rusher.
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes between picks in the 3rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 3rd. Hate this phone
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 4rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes in the 4
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 7 minutes between picks in the 2nd round
Martha Careful (25-Apr) : Sorry to bitch, but the headline writers in that section absolutely mislead, or don't know how to read. It is maddening
Martha Careful (25-Apr) : No thanks. Not a dependable guy to be in the right place and run the right route. Dumb as a box of rocks.
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : Losing 2nd round pick for a one year rental, not ideal. Especially a headcase.
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