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5 years ago
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-following-2019-regular-season?fbclid=IwAR1SEvDv_der6_icdWcw-6BYON6vdD2Gk2rc-iZ5iC4ow0yoRF9jkknClb8 

6. GREEN BAY PACKERS
The perception of the Packers’ offensive line doesn’t always meet reality. Aaron Rodgers consistently holds onto the football with one of the longest average time to throws in the NFL. As PFF Data Scientist Timo Riske explored with offensive line survival rates, that significantly increases the chance for quarterback pressure and sacks. Their 22nd-ranked pressure rate allowed isn’t all that impressive, but their average time to allow a pressure of 2.62 seconds (best in the NFL) is much more so.



6th best OL! Pretty impressive. I know people have complained about Bakhtiari having a down year and everyone hates Turner but it's hard to expect much more from a OL.

I find the comments interesting as it fits into the discussion on the Rodgers Apologists vs Rodgers Antagonists thread too.
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Cheesey
5 years ago
I just wish Rodgers would hit some quick passes. I have seen guys coming out of the backfield, where they are really open for a split second. But he seems to ignore them and waits to try for the long throw.
Some quick hitters would make the defense not tee off on Rodgers, and also open up the running game more.
Also take a lot of pressure off our O-line.
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go.pack.go.
5 years ago

I just wish Rodgers would hit some quick passes. I have seen guys coming out of the backfield, where they are really open for a split second. But he seems to ignore them and waits to try for the long throw.
Some quick hitters would make the defense not tee off on Rodgers, and also open up the running game more.
Also take a lot of pressure off our O-line.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



That would be nice. Would also be nice to run more designed short plays rather than wishing he would immediately throw to the RB every time the ball is snapped, which wouldn’t be smart.

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yooperfan
5 years ago

That would be nice. Would also be nice to run more designed short plays rather than wishing he would immediately throw to the RB every time the ball is snapped, which wouldn’t be smart.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 


I don't recall ANYBODY advocating Rodgers to immediately throw to the running back every time the ball is snapped.
Fans just would like Rodgers to follow his reads, hit the open man (regardless of who it is) and move the sticks.
Pretty much everyone is tired of Rodgers holding onto the ball looking for the homerun, only to be sacked.

go.pack.go.
5 years ago

I don't recall ANYBODY advocating Rodgers to immediately throw to the running back every time the ball is snapped.
Fans just would like Rodgers to follow his reads, hit the open man (regardless of who it is) and move the sticks.
Pretty much everyone is tired of Rodgers holding onto the ball looking for the homerun, only to be sacked.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



That does get quite tiring to watch. It’s something that he’s done most of his career and I wish it was different. I do feel like he’s done a little better with that here towards the end of the season.

I think we’re lucky to have 2 of the best tackles in the NFL, and also lucky that Bulaga hasn’t missed any significant time this year. Good job by BG finding Veldheer (sp?) mid season as well. He filled in nicely against the lions.


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5 years ago

6th best OL! Pretty impressive. I know people have complained about Bakhtiari having a down year and everyone hates Turner but it's hard to expect much more from a OL.

I find the comments interesting as it fits into the discussion on the Rodgers Apologists vs Rodgers Antagonists thread too.

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I don't hate Turner, I just think he's a slight upgrade over Lane Taylor... and I think Taylor is better than most thought coming out of 2018.

I thought the 2018 Packers OL biggest problems were the NFL leading 67.54% pass rate (which the highest perectage since 2013) , meaning the entire NFL world (including the casual followers) knew the Packers were going to pass the ball extremely often and Rodgers holding onto the ball so dang long combination... so all pass rushers and teams knew they could just pin their ears back and figure out how to get their star pass rushers one on one match-ups against the OGs and they'd win.

So I predicted, simply dropping the pass rate would improve how their OL (especially the OGs) looked a hell of a lot. Packers dropped it down about 8% to 59.71% and the OGs looked a heck of a lot better (though different OLs, so hard to tell apples to apples, but I think Lane Taylor would have looked a lot better). That 59.71% is the 17th highest in the NFL this year, so quite average. Though those stats also might be a bit up, because against the Lions they passed it 65.12% of the time with banged up RBs.

At home the Packers passing % was down to 58.18% and on away games 61.14%.

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I don't hate Turner, I just think he's a slight upgrade over Lane Taylor... and I think Taylor is better than most thought coming out of 2018.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I was intentionally exaggerating. PFF actually rated him pretty good the past 2 weeks.
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go.pack.go.
5 years ago
Just watch Mike Spofford’s podcast. Apparently Billy Turner rolled his ankle against the Lions but toughed it out and stayed in the game. We only had 2 backups on the OL active for the game and both were already in. Had Turner come out of the game, we would’ve been in a situation where a DT would’ve had to play OG. Kudos to him for that. Apparently he only missed 2 snaps all season, which led the offense.

Good job Billy!
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Just watch Mike Spofford’s podcast. Apparently Billy Turner rolled his ankle against the Lions but toughed it out and stayed in the game. We only had 2 backups on the OL active for the game and both were already in. Had Turner come out of the game, we would’ve been in a situation where a DT would’ve had to play OG. Kudos to him for that. Apparently he only missed 2 snaps all season, which led the offense.

Good job Billy!

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



That's a man's man. Kudos the the trainer for the quick tape job.
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Nonstopdrivel
5 years ago
Considering some NFL guards are converted tight ends, is it possible that a tight end could step into the guard position for spot duty? I don't know if Green Bay has anyone large enough to accomplish such a feat, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were a few monsters in the league who were versatile enough to fill in on the line.
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