Zero2Cool
14 years ago
I'd like for coaches to be honest. Good or Bad, they are men, they should be able to handle constructive criticism and shouldn't need to be blasted publicly to be motivated, nor should they need their ego padded with fluffy comments from coach.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I could not have said it better myself, Kevin.
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Tezzy
14 years ago
Sometimes I try to think about that situation like how my relationships work with my clients. I'm a consultant and I work for a partner in my firm. Now, if there are issues with the project for whatever reason, my boss would never go to the client and tell them that I suck and need to get better. Instead, it's the same politicing rhetoric. So I guess I can understand why coaches may be reluctant to treat their players any different than any boss would of their employess. But then at the same time, you guys aren't talking on a forum about my day to day consulting activities, or buying my work polo shirt signed by me. So it's hard for me to be upset when coaches don't do it, but damn if I wish they would.
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agopackgo4
14 years ago
Even more than assistants giving it strait I would like to hear it from MM. Talk about a guy just using lines...I better not start thinking about it now or I'll be pissed before camp even opens!
PackerTraxx
14 years ago
The coaches are going to speak and give info in a manner that best helps the team and the player, at least that's the way they should do it. We and the press shouldn't matter much in comparison. We may not like that, but I would sooner see them win a game, than get accurate info.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Philbin is the offensive coordinator, not the line coach, is he not?I was speaking in generalities, not about the offensive line specifically. I've never seen him give an unqualified endorsement of any player. The best he seems capable of saying is, "Yeah, we like him" or "He's doing pretty well."

But the opposite applies as well. I'd like to hear a coach come out and say a player sucks sometime. Just be forthright for once.

Basically, as a fan, I'd like to have a realistic idea of what chance a player has of actually making the squad.

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I like this young kid, Porter, Philbin said. Hes tough. He steps up in there, hits the hole. His helmets flown off a couple of times, and he just picks it up and buckles it up and goes again.
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