Zero2Cool
5 years ago

Certainly not trying to get into or continue this argument by any means.....but if a roads regular speed is 70 mph but has a 50 mph construction zone with not a single worker in it it seems pretty easy (read: Common) to continue going your typical 70-75 mph. Thus resulting in your 20-24mph speeding ticket that isn't nearly as bad as it sounds.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Reduced speed limit signs are posted well in advance of the construction zones. There's no way you can scout the area with 100% certainty there are no workers. I've had numerous times (mainly at night) where it looks like no one is around and then a worker or two comes sporting their ugly orange uniforms comes out of anywhere.

Maybe we're trying to say he did slow down and was driving through the construction zone and saw no one was there and sped up? That situation is more believable than somehow going 70 mph and making the assumption no workers are present.

As I tell my daughters with everything. You don't want a negative consequence, don't give me a reason to ground you. Same goes with driving, you don't want higher insurance, don't want tickets, know the laws and obey them ( Even when they seem stupid). Don't give police a reason to notice ya.

This coming from a "recovering" road law breaker who learned shit the hard way. 🙂
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Cheesey
5 years ago
Kevin, I’d applaud you 100 times for that post. Well thought out and well stated.
My Dad told me to obey the law, to respect the police.
He said “if you obey the law, you never have to be looking over your shoulder.”

Looks to me you are teaching your girls well.
I’m proud of you!
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gbguy20
5 years ago
I'll show you the hard way.
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Zero2Cool
5 years ago
Based on the Journal Sentinel report, he was going 81 mph in a 60 mph area. I'm not sure where I (or whoever said it) got that it was a construction zone. But considering that is normally 70 mph, maybe that's why?

So we, as humans, almost have to either be Self absorbed, choosing which laws are important to us to both follow, and/or ignore.... OR base it off, the other option of "everyone else is doing it" so it must be alright... that's human nature and we're all doing it (including you, and me)!

Originally Posted by: beast 



This mentality is what I parent out of my daughters. They learned young that dad don't give a damn if all their friends do this, or do that, or have this or have that. I'm responsible and accountable for them so things done how I feel is best.

As for "everyone else is doing it", they were also taught following a herd is a loser mentality. It is your responsibility to know the rules, know the laws and understand negligence is not an option. I also believe it's better to lead by example than solely with words, which is why I don't drive over solid white lines, why I use my signal even when no one is around, etc ... all that shit. Why? Because I'm a believer in the C.S. Lewis quote: Integrity is doing the right thing even when no one is watching.
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PackerTraxx
5 years ago
You violate the law, if caught, you pay the consequences. That mostly involves only you. In this case, if you're suspended, you're letting the team down. Why would you do that? Why wouldn't you just go to one of your homes with privacy?
Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
yooperfan
5 years ago

You violate the law, if caught, you pay the consequences. That mostly involves only you. In this case, if you're suspended, you're letting the team down. Why would you do that? Why wouldn't you just go to one of your homes with privacy?

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 


Because these kids with all their new found money and fame think that they are bulletproof.

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