DoddPower
6 years ago
Clay still has some juice left, but he hasn't been a great pass rusher in years. I think he could still be a great ILB though. Too bad he's not interested, it would seem. I think he could be a difference maker there for a few more years.
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Clay still has some juice left, but he hasn't been a great pass rusher in years. I think he could still be a great ILB though. Too bad he's not interested, it would seem. I think he could be a difference maker there for a few more years.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Probably not interested because he knows he isn't good at inside. No one who studied the film of Clay inside thinks he should be there. He doesn't have the lateral speed (only my opinion from what I've watched) to be effective in the middle. Se of his worst games where when he was inside.

Clay is nothing more than a pass rush specialist at this stage of his career. If we could find a good edge seal LB for first downs, that'd be great.


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6 years ago

Probably not interested because he knows he isn't good at inside. No one who studied the film of Clay inside thinks he should be there. He doesn't have the lateral speed (only my opinion from what I've watched) to be effective in the middle. Se of his worst games where when he was inside.

Clay is nothing more than a pass rush specialist at this stage of his career. If we could find a good edge seal LB for first downs, that'd be great.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



2019 draft first and second round picks.
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DoddPower
6 years ago

Probably not interested because he knows he isn't good at inside. No one who studied the film of Clay inside thinks he should be there. He doesn't have the lateral speed (only my opinion from what I've watched) to be effective in the middle. Se of his worst games where when he was inside.

Clay is nothing more than a pass rush specialist at this stage of his career. If we could find a good edge seal LB for first downs, that'd be great.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I disagree with the ILB thing. I think with time and dedication (which he didn't have enough of either in the past), he would at least be as effective of an ILB as he is an OLB, and it's possible he could be better. I could also see him only being a pass rush specialist, albeit not a great one. I could see him being a decent asset for a team like New England though.
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6 years ago
Irrespective of positions at the time of signing, at this point, given the realities of performance and age, it is not a great surprise if they did not want to continue with CMIII or Randall Cobb (or both). I personally would wait on the course of action until I see the performance for the balance of the year.
The Pro's for CMIII
- Last Two games have been had good performances (irrespective of penalties)
- He brings all he has, although its does not seem to be as much as he used to have
- He can do a lot of different things for you defensively, albeit coverage is not great
The Con's For CMIII
- He is really expensive IMO
- He consistently does NOT set a strong edge

Lets bear in mind that he, along with the others are learning a new defense.

Regardless, with strong edge rushers in the draft, I would rather have them deploy assets on both the offensive defensive lines, both in the draft and free agency. We need:
- a right guard
- a serviceable back-up OT
- 2 edge rushers
- a Safety (although arguably, you might be able to convert a corner)

If either guy is here next year, IMO it should be at lower $$ and in the case of CMIII significantly lower $$$
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