Uh oh...Nick Collins skipping offseason workouts

wils0646
Registered Topic Starter

15 years ago

http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/breaking_news//443728

GREEN BAY -- Nick Collins doesn't want a new deal before reporting to the Green Bay Packers' offseason strength and conditioning program. But the Pro Bowl safety would at least like the team to start talking to him about one.

With no negotiations on the horizon, Collins is staying home in Florida and not attending the team's offseason workouts, which kicked off Monday, an NFL source said Thursday evening.

Collins, 25, was named an NFC starter at safety for the Pro Bowl last month after registering 99 tackles and seven interceptions last season, returning three of those INTs for touchdowns. He has played and started 63 of a possible 66 games during his four NFL seasons, with 11 career interceptions.

This really disappoints me. He had escalators in his contract, paying him over 3 million next year, which is so much higher than some first rounders received in '05 in their 5th year of the rookie contract.

The safety position is also very important in Capers's system. They have to make all the calls and be very familiar with the system and the terminology. This isn't good at all.

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IronMan
Veteran Member

15 years ago

Lame. Maybe we can all take up a collection for him. ::roll:

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

I agree, lame, but I don't blame him. I also think its in his better interest to get his ass here and be with the team. He hasn't had any professional experience in a 3 - 4 and every rep will help him and the Packers.

Be upset you haven't heard talks about your contract, fine. Just don't hurt your career and potential because of it.

Pack93z
Select Member

15 years ago

Hmmm I wonder if this had anything to do with why we where looking safety in FA?

I said it a couple weeks ago, it might be time to look at dealing Collins while his value is at a peak. While he has a ton of physical talent and unreal range, one has to question the mental aspect of the game and his continued nicked up status... he always seems to be playing with some sort of injury.

I mean honestly, he has seen how Thompson works, he would be in line to get a extended contract this season already, this nonsense can only hurt him.

Maybe wearing that Pro Bowl jersey got to him a little.

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longtimefan
Registered

15 years ago

I hate that crap

If there is one thing I would like to change is that players can not re-do their deals they sign..

But in turn nfl makes those deals guaranteed

I know it wont happen and I knwo its flawed in some ways..

But I cant stand the fact players want new deals as soon as they start to get good

dfosterf
Veteran Member

15 years ago

Just wonder if this is possibly fallout from re-signing Bush. I am NOT saying it is, but it is POSSIBLE that his re-signing is messing with everyone's self- perception of their RELATIVE worth to the Packers, especially in light of our cap room and lack of movement in free agency.

It's damned if you do and damned if you don't in the NFL, imo.

EDIT--

And z posted while I was writing. Friendly reminder-- I warned about fallout from selection to the pro-bowl while many felt we were slighted as a team... As I stated then, I wish everybody else's guys get recognized for the honor, not ours. This is an example of why I say that. I might not be fair, but neither is not honoring your contract. Again, imo.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

Bush is no threat to Collins. I think that has very little to do with it. I think Collins going to the Pro Bowl and having such a good year last year he feels he should be paid immediately. I say get in line. First priority MUST be Greg Jennings, then others, such as Collins. If I were Collins I wouldn't be doing this. I'd be waiting for Jennings to get done, then I'd make my desire for a new contract known to the staff, not public, the staff.

longtimefan
Registered

15 years ago

Packers FS Nick Collins hit an escalator in his contract that increased his 2009 base salary from $530,000 to $3.045 million. Collins, entering a contract season, has been a starter since his rookie year and picked off seven passes in 2008 to earn his first Pro Bowl berth. [...]

greedy

Dulak
Veteran Member

15 years ago

"dfosterf" wrote:

I think dfoster means - not that collins position may be up for grabs but that the $ is a issue.

ie look at bush ... he got a nice chunk of change just by looking around. And then theres williams 'looking' around wanting more money.

The only guy that should be looking for more money is collins (and thats after his contract is done) - in reality it doesnt make sense that people can re-nig on their contract while its in effect?
Heck I'm in a contract at work can I just put up a stink and demand more money even thou my name is on the dotted line?

I dont get it.

dhazer
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#10

I think Nick just wants a phone call from Ted Thompson to feel wanted on the team 😛 But seriously isn't it funny how players are looked upon. Just a few months ago everyone was saying how great Collins was and he needs to have his contract extended but now that he isn't showing up for strength and conditioning those same people are putting him down. Makes me wonder if you same people would say the same thing about Jennings if he does this?

To be totally honest i think Greg is going to try free agency and we will lose him. Something isn't right with whats going on he already refused to discuss his contract last season, it be could the smoke before the fire.

But c'mon guys stop flip flopping you are starting to get worse than Skip Bayless. Have faith Ted Thompson will take care of these guys.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

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