ILikeThePackers39
16 years ago

If this does become a money matter, as long as he doesn't take it to the media like Javon Walker and Mike McKenzie did and demand a trade, then I think he has every right to sit out.

He played well last year. He was a playmaker. He might not be as good as people think. I certainly don't believe he's an elite safety, but he's a solid starter and for that reason, GB should be looking to keep him.

"porky88" wrote:




Thank you. The way people flip-flop about players, I'm just glad they're not running our front office - we'd never keep a player here more'n a couple years. The minute they want to get paid they become 'whiners' or over-rated.

Collins is hands-down the best safety the Packers have, he had a hell of a year last year (and did well the year before), and he's getting to the one best spot to make his money. This is the contract that, for most players, defines their career income in the NFL - this is his time to get his money.

Given the fact that he could suffer an injury that'll jeopardize his ability to maximize his NFL income, I don't see any problem in his sitting out. Additionally, the current reason, as Z pointed out, is that he's dealing with family business. And the worst I've read is that his agent says he's "disappointed" that they haven't started talking about a new contract. Not "pissed", not threatening to hold out.

I'm with Bozz - I'm not going to pass any judgement until Nick speaks for himself.
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DarkaneRules
16 years ago
Plus I am sure he is working out elsewhere... I mean... He is a football player haha
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zombieslayer
16 years ago



Thank you. The way people flip-flop about players, I'm just glad they're not running our front office - we'd never keep a player here more'n a couple years. The minute they want to get paid they become 'whiners' or over-rated.

Collins is hands-down the best safety the Packers have, he had a hell of a year last year (and did well the year before), and he's getting to the one best spot to make his money. This is the contract that, for most players, defines their career income in the NFL - this is his time to get his money.

Given the fact that he could suffer an injury that'll jeopardize his ability to maximize his NFL income, I don't see any problem in his sitting out. Additionally, the current reason, as Z pointed out, is that he's dealing with family business. And the worst I've read is that his agent says he's "disappointed" that they haven't started talking about a new contract. Not "pissed", not threatening to hold out.

I'm with Bozz - I'm not going to pass any judgement until Nick speaks for himself.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



+1.
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zombieslayer
16 years ago
Well, here's an official quote from Collins. When asked if he wants to play for us long term, he said:

Of course. This is where I started; this is where I want to finish. But, this is a business. Hopefully, things get worked out. But, if not, Im always going to be a Packer, in my heart.


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