Committee: Kickoffs at risk if not made safer· Page 4

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

I just don’t remember that many injuries on kickoffs. Are they just looking for problems that aren’t really there? Kicking from the 35 has put most of them in the end zone anyway.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

With all due respect, if Mark Murphy is saying it's a problem there must be something to it either that are his lying which I doubt. Just because we can't see the injuries on our tv doesn't mean they are not there.

Keep in mind we have gotten sidetracked talking exclusively about concussions. mark is talking about all types of injuries.

Injury rates on NFL kickoffs remain so high that the league's competition committee will give a mandate: Make the play safer, or the committee will recommend its elimination in the near future.

The message for the group, Murphy said, would be: "If you don't make changes to make it safer, we're going to do away with it. It's that serious. It's by far the most dangerous play in the game."

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#32

That’s probably so. All I said is that I don’t remember any serious injuries on kickoffs. I’m sure not an authority on the subject.
I do remember MANY injuries on pass plays.
I wonder if they will try to stop that part of the game.
Pro football is a dangerous sport, no doubt. You can try to negate injuries, but at some point you have to accept some chance of injury. Or just close the doors and call it quits.
That is one reason why pro ball players get paid such ridiculous salaries. The chance of getting hurt is much higher then average jobs.
Look at the MLB. They took away the catcher blocking the plate, as that was a high injury risk.
But where do you stop?

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

#33

Originally Posted by: wpr

I still wonder if the injuries are lesser spoken about because they are not starters. I don't think too many players play on special teams, so its usually fringe players or 3rd or 4th string guys. Then again, another thought, I read quite a bit how "dumb" the Packers are for having someone like Charles Woodson on returns or Randall Cobb. Interesting ...

Porforis
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#34

Originally Posted by: wpr

They would however, be on the injury report (especially if a concussion) and I don't recall seeing anybody pop up as a surprise and then hearing they were injured on a kickoff in... ever.

Again, I'm also assuming these injuries are happening outside of our view given all the attention to injuries on kickoffs, I've just yet to see anything besides people making claims without any sort of information to back it up.

Smokey
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#35

It is not in the best interest of the NFL or any team to release any more information on injuries than they can help. It's bad public relations and can aid teams that compete against a recovered injured player. Famous players like Aaron Rodgers, due to reporters and public pressure, end up revealing every detail of an injury. At the same time, an injury to a rookie LB does not garner as much attention.

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