gbguy20
6 years ago
Isn't earl coming out of a broken leg and contemplating retirement? Or was that a year ago already?
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nerdmann
6 years ago

I would give Cardinals my 1st round pick plus my 4th round pick for Patrick Peterson and their 5th round pick. We will have Peterson locked up for 3 seasons. We would use that on a CB anyway, right? Might as well use it on a proven commodity.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



We need an OLB who can sniff the QB.

This draft is deep in CBs. We can get three in the draft. Offer them Cobb.
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Barfarn
6 years ago
Trades for guys with big contracts is the behavior of a desperate LOSER of a GM. They simply dont work, nor do they make any sense.

Think about it, trading for a guy has all the pitfalls of signing a FA, so the odds of success are in the 15%-20% range.

If you can sign a supposed stud FA CB for $15M per; why trade for a stud CB pay him $15M per AND ALSO give up a 1st round or 1st and 3rd rnd picks...It's a double negative whammy!
nerdmann
6 years ago

Trades for guys with big contracts is the behavior of a desperate LOSER of a GM. They simply dont work, nor do they make any sense.

Think about it, trading for a guy has all the pitfalls of signing a FA, so the odds of success are in the 15%-20% range.

If you can sign a supposed stud FA CB for $15M per; why trade for a stud CB pay him $15M per AND ALSO give up a 1st round or 1st and 3rd rnd picks...It's a double negative whammy!

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



You'd be ditching Cobb's contract in exchange for one at a position of need. [twocents]
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Smokey
6 years ago
Labeling anyone a loser reflects poorly upon the person saying it.

Trades, deals, or just plain out bidding for a player is never a guaranteed success. However when it involves a proven veteran, you've lowered the risk of getting a scrub. Some players have proven their worth and do command bigger deals. Some however were great players, but due to injury they are now not so solid a prize. It is then up to a GM to get the true story before they entertain any deals. Some players return from injuries to play at the highest level, while others do not ever make it back.

The Packers Organization may get fooled as to a player's less than honorable actions, but not as to their medical condition. If BG makes a deal for a WR or a CB and it's for large money, then it is in their professional opinion in the best interest of the team.

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Pack93z
6 years ago
If... Thomas is healthy, he is a difference maker for any defense.. if you can obtain him sensibly, you do it. Only concern I would have is health. At his current deal, pricey but can manage a year at it our leverage it into a new deal.
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Peterson is good... but I think his true impact is less than his cost as a whole.. in terms of what we would have to give up to obtain and on the balance sheet once obtained. Little leverage to redo deal.

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Zero2Cool (2h) : It's better to have $17m to use on players who will be on the field. That's why trade/release is talked
Zero2Cool (2h) : post june is $7m cap hit with $17m saving
Zero2Cool (2h) : oops meant $10m cap hit
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Zero2Cool (2h) : Can't make him play.
dhazer (2h) : I am curious why the big need to release Jaire, we have 29 million cap space we arent spending and would only gain $6 million/ make him play
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dfosterf (3h) : What they are offering is a left over case of Leinies from the Chippewa Falls plant
Zero2Cool (3h) : 27, 59, 91, 129 gets you Jaire and our 3rd
Zero2Cool (3h) : they give us those five, or even first four, they can have Jaire.
Zero2Cool (3h) : 27, 59, 91, 129 and 136 are only ones worth having of theirs.
dfosterf (3h) : What they don't have is cap space, at least presently at 5.6 mil
dfosterf (4h) : Poor bastards only have 11
Zero2Cool (4h) : Ravens ain't got crap for picks.
Zero2Cool (4h) : Aaron Rodgers is choosing between Steelers and Giants. The Vikings are officially out on him, per RapSheet
dfosterf (4h) : Current cap space 29.6 million.
dfosterf (4h) : Hobbs 2025 cap hit just under 6 million. Banks 2025 cap hit just over 9 million
Mucky Tundra (11h) : beast, this is news to me! Tell me more about these, "draft picks." They seem mighty mysterious! 😉
beast (13h) : Yes, the Ravens have draft picks
dfosterf (14h) : Good luck to him.
Zero2Cool (15h) : Eric Stokes signs with Raiders
Martha Careful (16h) : Tyler Linderbaum C
Mucky Tundra (16h) : Cap space?
Zero2Cool (16h) : Do Ravens have anything we'd even entertain to have?
Mucky Tundra (18h) : I've seen trade ideas of Jaire going to the Ravens all offseason
beast (19h) : A probably false rumor is suggesting CB Jaire Alexander is being traded to the Ravens, again probably false
beast (19h) : Commanders might have a dominant offense the next 3 years at least
Zero2Cool (21h) : San Francisco 49ers announced they have released DL Leonard Floyd.
Mucky Tundra (22h) : Er getting traded twice like that
Mucky Tundra (23h) : Huh, LT Laremy Tunsil traded from Houston to Washington. Never heard of a top OT getting traded in his career like that
Martha Careful (11-Mar) : Minnesota Vikings cornerback Byron Murphy Jr. is returning on a three-year, $66 million deal
Zero2Cool (11-Mar) : Damn
Martha Careful (11-Mar) : Saints are re-signing DE Chase Young to a three-year, $51 million deal worth up to $57 million.
Martha Careful (11-Mar) : 49ers releasing FB Juszcyk any interest?
Zero2Cool (11-Mar) : digits of four
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Zero2Cool (10-Mar) : LB Oren Burks to sign a 2-year, $5M deal with the Bengals.
Zero2Cool (10-Mar) : Based on how it was worded at the time, probably scout.
beast (10-Mar) : I don't think the media person ever told the public the source, but Gute or LaFleur did say they thought Tom has earned his spot at OT
beast (10-Mar) : I think it was supposedly unnamed Packers source
buckeyepackfan (10-Mar) : Was that Gute or Lefleur or someone else?
buckeyepackfan (10-Mar) : Zach Tom could be a really good guard, an all pro tackle, but probably be a HOF Center. Who said that?
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