beast
6 years ago

Next, go with Adams the WR1, move Montgomery to WR3 (the slot receiver) and if BG can get Allen Robinson foe the WR2 then GB will have sweet starting WR core. Cobb can be traded as necessary to get Robinson or in a deal to get an above average CB.

Adams (WR1), Graham(TE), Montgomery(WR3), and Robinson(WR2)

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



I don't think we could trade Cobb's contract... and Cobb is the slot WR as long as he's here. Though the Packers only have one outside WR now, and a TE and slot WR.

Also as blueleopard said, it sounds like "Robinson is gonna be a Bear."

I wonder if they might think about having Monty as an outside WR (or Cobb as outside WR with Monty in the slot). Or what their plan is for outside WR.


I guess I just don't understand, why Cobb over Nelson?
With Rodgers at QB, Nelson kept getting 1,200+ yard seasons... while Cobb hasn't gotten 830 yards since 2014. Also the Packers lack outside WR depth... and Nelson can play outside WR (he might be a #2, but he can still play it well)... where Cobb is more of a slot guy and they now have Graham and Monty who can also play the slot.

I'll just have to wait and see... I thought Cobb would be released first. I guess I was wrong.
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gbguy20
6 years ago
Age and last season decided it.
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sschind
6 years ago

I don't think we could trade Cobb's contract... and Cobb is the slot WR as long as he's here. Though the Packers only have one outside WR now, and a TE and slot WR.

Also as blueleopard said, it sounds like "Robinson is gonna be a Bear."

I wonder if they might think about having Monty as an outside WR (or Cobb as outside WR with Monty in the slot). Or what their plan is for outside WR.


I guess I just don't understand, why Cobb over Nelson?
With Rodgers at QB, Nelson kept getting 1,200+ yard seasons... while Cobb hasn't gotten 830 yards since 2014. Also the Packers lack outside WR depth... and Nelson can play outside WR (he might be a #2, but he can still play it well)... where Cobb is more of a slot guy and they now have Graham and Monty who can also play the slot.

I'll just have to wait and see... I thought Cobb would be released first. I guess I was wrong.

Originally Posted by: beast 



To me this says the Packers are still trying to work out a longer term extension with Cobb to both reduce his cap hit in 2018 and keep him around for a few more years at a decent price. With the money a few mid level WRs have gotten so far (Lee, Richardson, heck even Albert Wilson...WHO? got 8 million a year) I don't think it's that far fetched. Maybe Gute was just waiting for the market to set itself. Offer Cobb a three year extension worth 8-9 million a year with a 4 or 5 million reduction in cap hit this season and I'd be happy with it. I'm not sure Cobb would take it but in that case if I were the Packers I'd keep him around for another year. After seeing what others got his numbers don't seem quite as bad as they did a day ago.
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6 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Too many scrubs at the position. We need to clean house.
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gbguy20
6 years ago

To me this says the Packers are still trying to work out a longer term extension with Cobb to both reduce his cap hit in 2018 and keep him around for a few more years at a decent price. With the money a few mid level WRs have gotten so far (Lee, Richardson, heck even Albert Wilson...WHO? got 8 million a year) I don't think it's that far fetched. Maybe Gute was just waiting for the market to set itself. Offer Cobb a three year extension worth 8-9 million a year with a 4 or 5 million reduction in cap hit this season and I'd be happy with it. I'm not sure Cobb would take it but in that case if I were the Packers I'd keep him around for another year. After seeing what others got his numbers don't seem quite as bad as they did a day ago.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I can't remember who tweeted it earlier but they said they already approached Cobb about a restructure/extension and it didn't end up happening.
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beast
6 years ago
Just sayin'

Nelson's 10 years with the Packers was historically productive. He caught 550 passes to rank third in franchise history. His 7848 yards placed him fifth, his 69 touchdowns ranked only behind legendary Don Hutson and his 25, 100 yard games was third most.

Nelson produced three seasons of at least 1250 yards and 13 touchdowns and in NFL history, only Jerry Rice (6), Randy Moss (5) and Terrell Owens (4) can say that.

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sschind
6 years ago

I can't remember who tweeted it earlier but they said they already approached Cobb about a restructure/extension and it didn't end up happening.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Sorry, I missed that. Still, even if they keep him around on his current deal there is a chance they keep him long term later on. If he excels maybe we up our offer and if he struggle maybe he changes his mind. With Nelson I'm guessing they would have gotten 2018 and that's it.

If that's true though it sounds like he may be the next out the door when we need a bit more cash

Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Sorry, I missed that. Still, even if they keep him around on his current deal there is a chance they keep him long term later on. If he excels maybe we up our offer and if he struggle maybe he changes his mind. With Nelson I'm guessing they would have gotten 2018 and that's it.

If that's true though it sounds like he may be the next out the door when we need a bit more cash

Originally Posted by: sschind 



The Packers talked to Randall Cobb about an extension. Brian G said it didn't happen. When hearing Brian G talking about it, it didn't sound like it wouldn't ever happen. It sounds more like they talked about it, and didn't happen at that time. I wouldn't be shocked to see him get a 3 year extension in the coming months if the Packers need to free up space.
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isocleas2
6 years ago

The Packers talked to Randall Cobb about an extension. Brian G said it didn't happen. When hearing Brian G talking about it, it didn't sound like it wouldn't ever happen. It sounds more like they talked about it, and didn't happen at that time. I wouldn't be shocked to see him get a 3 year extension in the coming months if the Packers need to free up space.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Cobb is still young enough he could have 3-4 years of good football left in him. Also with how his numbers have declined the last few years he's at a pretty weak negotiating stand point, so if the Packers are still seeing a quality player in practice worth locking up now wouldn't be the worst time for an affordable extension. Especially if it frees up cap room to sign a CB etc.
DarkaneRules
6 years ago
Cobb can hit the road if he doesn't want to restructure. I wouldn't blame him anyway. It's time to be new.
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