PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
Well by your own definition and your posting you are a Homer UFFDA, just in a different direction. If you read your own post objectively you might see that.

None of us actually know what goes on in the Packers organization, everything we post is opinion, just because other see things different then you doesn't make them wrong and you right.

Personally I have been wrong once in my life. And that was when I stated that I sometimes make mistakes.
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uffda udfa
7 years ago

Well by your own definition and your posting you are a Homer UFFDA, just in a different direction. If you read your own post objectively you might see that.

None of us actually know what goes on in the Packers organization, everything we post is opinion, just because other see things different then you doesn't make them wrong and you right.

Personally I have been wrong once in my life. And that was when I stated that I sometimes make mistakes.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Homer in a different direction? 🙂. That's some liberty there. 🙂.

beast asked me a question. I'd like to say objective connotes fairness and I believe fair is better than unfair. Unfair is exactly the reaction I receive to my honest attempts at fairness and balance to what we see here.

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beast
7 years ago

In the end all you have done is say your better than others. (Because being more objective is better, is it not?).

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Is being more objective better?

It's a simple question...

My problem is that you keep implying that your better than others and your false claims that you are being attack due to your viewpoint instead of the real reason, your condescending tone that you write with.

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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

Homer in a different direction? 🙂. That's some liberty there. 🙂.

beast asked me a question. I'd like to say objective connotes fairness and I believe fair is better than unfair. Unfair is exactly the reaction I receive to my honest attempts at fairness and balance to what we see here.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Objectivity is good, except when it's used as superiority.
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uffda udfa
7 years ago

Is being more objective better?

It's a simple question...

My problem is that you keep implying that your better than others and your false claims that you are being attack due to your viewpoint instead of the real reason, your condescending tone that you write with.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Objectivity is better than no objectivity. Yes. I don't consider myself a better person. No.


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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

Objectivity is better than no objectivity. Yes. I don't consider myself a better person. No.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



You keep thinking you are objective and you are not any more than anybody else. You think Hundley is terrible, everything you post about that subject is slanted towards that belief. You want the team to be blown up and rebuilt, your posts about that are all slanted towards that opinion.

Having strong beliefs or opinions on a subject which you yourself claim, is completely contrary to objectivity.




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7 years ago

Can we agree that how you define homer and what you feel it connotes is critical to this particular debate about whether someone is a big mean bully trying to belittle certain posters?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



No.
I didn't read the rest of your comment.

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uffda udfa
7 years ago

You keep thinking you are objective and you are not any more than anybody else. You think Hundley is terrible, everything you post about that subject is slanted towards that belief. You want the team to be blown up and rebuilt, your posts about that are all slanted towards that opinion.

Having strong beliefs or opinions on a subject which you yourself claim, is completely contrary to objectivity.



Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



? Go read what I wrote about Hundley before he actually started a game for us. I was looking forward to him recalling the dynamic player from his first pre-season. He was as impressive a player that I'd seen in many years. He never looked that good ever again, and has really looked awful in his recent starts.

I would agree that OPINIONS are hard to objectify in some cases. Let's look at one such instance that is coming to mind... during the off-season there was buzz about our defense being a lot better. Even Barfarn was on here saying it would be Top 10 or was it 5 by end of the season? I didn't ridicule him, I told him why I thought that was an odd opinion after seeing what little the team had done to fix it's CB woes. I took heat about my negativity for giving my opinion. Why do you think I took heat? Do you not think that a homer wants to believe the defense would be better, after all, it has Ted picking players for it and he's the best GM in the league, right? I chose to focus on the "fix" and say why it was going to kill our season yet again. Was that opinion wrong? Packers D is ranked 25th right now. We've all seen the CB play. Atrocious. However, I got blasted for my "negativity". I would say it was my ability to be objective that allowed me to form an opinion closer to the reality that we've all seen than that of the homer view that things were going to be better. Homer leanings led to a skewed opinion that has turned out to be wrong. I feel like my ability to be objective really helped me get it right about our defense but somehow it gets taken to weird extremes about what my methodology is here.




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beast
7 years ago

You keep thinking you are objective and you are not any more than anybody else. You think Hundley is terrible, everything you post about that subject is slanted towards that belief. You want the team to be blown up and rebuilt, your posts about that are all slanted towards that opinion.

Having strong beliefs or opinions on a subject which you yourself claim, is completely contrary to objectivity.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 


Right, to be objectivity one most be open minded...

A homer (the way it's often being used here) is not objectivity because they aren't open minded against the people on the team. Uffda, like-wise is not objectivity because he is not open minded towards the people on the team. Neither is objective.

And none of us are completely objective because we all have personal biases.
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beast
7 years ago

at least you are not called a Marge.

Doh.

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