wpr
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7 years ago
I don't care for the term "homer". It has gotten too derogatory these days like it is some kind of disease that needs to be irradiated.

There is nothing wrong with people who have a more optimistic/hopeful point of view. Let them. They don't need to be corrected. They don't need to be shown the error of their way. They need to support the team of their choice in the manner they see fit.

We can certainly enjoy a discussion without attacking each other or try to rob their joy of a sporting event. After all, when the game is over nothing in our lives will have changed. Not unless you put a bundle on the game.
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beast
7 years ago

There is nothing wrong with people who have a more optimistic/hopeful point of view. Let them. They don't need to be corrected. They don't need to be shown the error of their way. They need to support the team of their choice in the manner they see fit.

Originally Posted by: wpr 


Very correct, and to add on that goes both ways for both optimist and pessimist as they're equals, one is not a better fan as they can be equally obsessed, and one is not superior in any way or less biased in any way.
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yooperfan
7 years ago

I don't care for the term "homer". It has gotten too derogatory these days like it is some kind of disease that needs to be irradiated.

There is nothing wrong with people who have a more optimistic/hopeful point of view. Let them. They don't need to be corrected. They don't need to be shown the error of their way. They need to support the team of their choice in the manner they see fit.

We can certainly enjoy a discussion without attacking each other or try to rob their joy of a sporting event. After all, when the game is over nothing in our lives will have changed. Not unless you put a bundle on the game.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Very well said!!
In my opinion this thread should be locked!

Zero2Cool
7 years ago

I don't care for the term "homer". It has gotten too derogatory these days like it is some kind of disease that needs to be irradiated.

There is nothing wrong with people who have a more optimistic/hopeful point of view. Let them. They don't need to be corrected. They don't need to be shown the error of their way. They need to support the team of their choice in the manner they see fit.

We can certainly enjoy a discussion without attacking each other or try to rob their joy of a sporting event. After all, when the game is over nothing in our lives will have changed. Not unless you put a bundle on the game.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I don't mind being called a homer. I like the Brewers, Badgers and Bucks because they are within my home state. If I was born elsewhere, I would still root for the Packers because I got hooked on the tradition and lengthy history. That's why I like the Red Sox. I like the Penguins because my dad talked about them and the more I watched them play, the more I liked Mario. And then Sidney came along. I also like the Gamblers for homer reasons, they are my local Hockey team.

If anyone has a problem with me being a homer, they can go fuck themselves raw and bleed out.
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wpr
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7 years ago

I don't mind being called a homer. I like the Brewers, Badgers and Bucks because they are within my home state. If I was born elsewhere, I would still root for the Packers because I got hooked on the tradition and lengthy history. That's why I like the Red Sox. I like the Penguins because my dad talked about them and the more I watched them play, the more I liked Mario. And then Sidney came along. I also like the Gamblers for homer reasons, they are my local Hockey team.

If anyone has a problem with me being a homer, they can go fuck themselves raw and bleed out.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



In a general sense being a Homer is fine. There's a reason most fans live within 100 miles of the franchise's stadium, arena or field. My younger brother has lived in Chicago, Atlanta, Cincy, Montreal and Charlotte. He tends to follow the local teams.
But there are a few and not just on this site that use the term Homer to mean the fan isn't smart enough to realize the short comings for their team.

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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
at least you are not called a Marge.

Doh.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Zero2Cool
7 years ago

In a general sense being a Homer is fine. There's a reason most fans live within 100 miles of the franchise's stadium, arena or field. My younger brother has lived in Chicago, Atlanta, Cincy, Montreal and Charlotte. He tends to follow the local teams.

But there are a few and not just on this site that use the term Homer to mean the fan isn't smart enough to realize the short comings for their team.

Originally Posted by: wpr 


Then to those that fall into this highlighted portion should read the last sentence in my post earlier and soak it up. Live it. Breath it. I don't care, I will root for whatever damn team I want for whatever the damn reason I choose.


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uffda udfa
7 years ago

In a general sense being a Homer is fine. There's a reason most fans live within 100 miles of the franchise's stadium, arena or field. My younger brother has lived in Chicago, Atlanta, Cincy, Montreal and Charlotte. He tends to follow the local teams.
But there are a few and not just on this site that use the term Homer to mean the fan isn't smart enough to realize the short comings for their team.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Can we agree that how you define homer and what you feel it connotes is critical to this particular debate about whether someone is a big mean bully trying to belittle certain posters?

I posted the definition and my understanding of the term and context for how I operate and not a word was specifically said about that post. Just generalizations. It's like what I said wasn't said and it's been moved back to this mystery status so one could keep alleging how awful I am.

That post should've explained everything and should've stopped all this finger pointing. Don't you understand my perspective is built on an actual definition and isn't being done with malice?

It's as though it's all being avoided.

You don't like the term? I can understand but it doesn't change it's meaning. It doesn't mean someone is better than someone else. It means what it means and there's not much more to it. The belligerent portion of the definition applies perfectly to what I experience when I speak to what homerism even means or what it inhibits a person from.

In the end,all I've done is applied a term per it's definition and taken a lot of vitriol for it's self contained definition truth. Not wrong. Not mean. Not arrogant. Not negative. Just the truth like I've maintained all along. Not a liar, either.

Somewhere you would think there'd be an acknowledgement of my perspective as being from a place of truth not some mean agenda but that would be too much to ask. Wouldn't want anyone to feel bad that they mercilessly gotten me wrong over and over.

What twist of the truth will happen next? Can't wait to read how I'm still awful and I'm wrong about everything.
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beast
7 years ago
In the end all you have done is say your better than others. (Because being more objective is better, is it not?).
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uffda udfa
7 years ago

In the end all you have done is say your better than others. (Because being more objective is better, is it not?).

Originally Posted by: beast 



Did you read my post with the definition of homer in it?

Your issue isn't with me it's with the truth of the term.

Why do you incessantly allege that I think I'm better? I know I'm not a homer that's all there is to it. If you feel convicted by any part of the definition that has everything to do with you and nothing to do with me. I posted the truth and context for my actions. The way you need to spin it or perceive it is on you.
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bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
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