uffda udfa
7 years ago

He's calling Buckeyepackfan a lier about Lions fans being happy.

In other words he's calling Buckeyepackfan a lier for posting this


Originally Posted by: beast 



What? Is this you interpretation of what I said? Z said I was wrong about Lions fans being happy with 4-4. I said that would make 4 posts above a lie, then. Would it not? I didn't call anyone a liar. I only stated the truth that if Z thought Lions fans weren't happy with 4-4 then that post was a lie. My goodness. This is how this forum reacts to every true thing I say. Somehow, it's something other than what it is and it's some evil agenda. However, none of this ever causes a personal moment of reflection or apology. It's right back to twisting. You take exactly what you wish to be there whether it's there or not and I'm the one always having fingers pointed that I have an agenda? Yup...my agenda is blowing up false perceptions... I like the truth and it's hard to stomach how often it gets bastardized here with me all the time.

When I tell you why this happens, which is the truth, it only spirals from there. It's unwinnable for me.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

PFWT... Why haven't you been more vocal? You were okay with this regime just trying to flatline it's way to a Lombardi? That's a disgraceful, despicable way of thinking. We should've been advocates not "enemies". How can you sit there and watch what it is we're doing and say so little?

What's changed? Why now for you? Do you think you should've taken this more seriously years ago? Would love to hear your self assessment on how your thoughts have evolved over the years.

Honestly, I know you can't stand me but I've been right all these years while getting flamed on this forum for years. Actually, ANY forum I ever went to soundly rejected the truth. Nobody ever wanted to listen. Why now? The thinking I had back then was right years ago. It's still right and will always be right.

You recently posted Mike McCarthy should be fired? Emotional reaction or actual measured well thought out offering?

This fanbase needs to riot. It starts small. Everyone needs to start opening their eyes to this ruse and poisoning done to it by this current regime.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Guess you just don't pay attention. I'm vocal with it when the discussion is pertinent. Like during the offseason and Free Agency. But understanding that I don't know what is actually going on behind closed doors, constantly crying about things I don't have control or knowledge of is idiotic.



The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Zero2Cool
7 years ago

It isn't arrogant. It's fair if not a little childish on my part. This forum hammered me for my viewpoints. Everyone was all jovial with regular season wins and playoff appearances. I wasn't. Why? There was a difference between me and the vast majority of this forum. You don't think I should find nothing in the forum coming around to viewpoints I was blasted for year after year? Really? This forum can't wait to rip me for any little thing. Do you call that out? No, because you agree with it. You don't agree with this but you were never on my side of thinking here. I was blasted for my thoughts on the Bears win from 2015. People still love hammering me for things they just never understood. Now, they're starting to get it and I should enjoy it. Has anyone ever said...hey, uffda, you know, you were right on about that stuff I used to criticize you for? Not a single soul has done so nor will they. I always defer to people when it's appropriate. IF someone posts something in shout I don't run to the forum trying to be first to post about it. I say this comes from Kevin from the shout box. I applaud when someone makes a good point like you did with Ruvell. I applaud when you posted about Tolzien vs. Hundley. This should have never been me against the forum but that's how it's been for years and we all realize that I would hope. Dakota was the only one who ever defended me. The rest laughed, mocked and scorned.

You know I appreciate you and this forum. This is a moment for me to watch with smiles on my face. People are finally seeing what I've been screaming about for years. It's like finally being heard after so many years of shunning. You don't think I enjoy that? I hate that the Packers suck now but am happy to see people getting it now. That isn't arrogant. It's truth. What else should it be called?


Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



And you go and do it again!!!! 🤷 [whead]


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beast
7 years ago

This arrogant kind of comment is what bugs me. You act like you're the only one who has wanted the Packers to do more and everyone is wearing blinders or is a homer. Listen up, you were never the only one, not the first, you were just the only one who kept screaming at the top of their lungs in ... every ... single ... topic ... in ... every ... single ... post!!

Recap, you weren't the only one, you were just the overbearing obnoxious one. 🙂 (you're passionate, I don't mean this as an insult -- sorry if you take it wrong)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

That's what bugs everyone, his arrogance and his ego, that poorly makes him says stuff like that. As he himself, BOTH singles himself out and demeans others that don't agree with him... and then acts like a victim of others, when he's the one that singling himself out and demeaning others. Which pisses off others, and then piss him off and it builds.

There are other people saying the same exact things he's saying, but how they're saying it does not singling themselves out as the only one, and more importantly it's not demeaning others.

And you go and do it again!!!! 🤷 [whead]

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Sadly, I don't think he can help it... I think it's internal ego.
He thinks he's SO special that he's by himself, and everyone is against him.
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uffda udfa
7 years ago

And you go and do it again!!!! 🤷 [whead]

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Am I wrong? Explain to me how I'm wrong? Why did Dakota speak to this forum "hyena-ing" me all the time? WHY? Show me the error in my thinking. I'm all for a good debate.

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uffda udfa
7 years ago

That's what bugs everyone, his arrogance and his ego, that poorly makes him says stuff like that. As he himself, BOTH singles himself out and demeans others that don't agree with him... and then acts like a victim of others, when he's the one that singling himself out and demeaning others. Which pisses off others, and then piss him off and it builds.

There are other people saying the same exact things he's saying, but how they're saying it does not singling themselves out as the only one, and more importantly it's not demeaning others.



Originally Posted by: beast 



Who on this forum has been saying the things I've been saying for years? Who? You like to speak about me but you don't like speaking to what I'm speaking about.

You don't think you've ever demeaned me? No one here has ever demeaned me, scorned me, mocked me? Wow. Truly blind. I feel for you.




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beast
7 years ago

I've been saying this since before Rodgers and Matthews got their last contracts. I just don't say it like a butthead.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

Guess you just don't pay attention. I'm vocal with it when the discussion is pertinent. Like during the offseason and Free Agency. But understanding that I don't know what is actually going on behind closed doors, constantly crying about things I don't have control or knowledge of is idiotic.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 


Exactly on both accounts. You don't act like a butthead and don't make stuff up about what happens behind closed doors or make assumptions like you know what is going behind closed doors.


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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

Who on this forum has been saying the things I've been saying for years? Who? You like to speak about me but you don't like speaking to what I'm speaking about.

You don't think you've ever demeaned me? No one here has ever demeaned me, scorned me, mocked me? Wow. Truly blind. I feel for you.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


Everyone has said the things you have been saying. We just move on while you hammer it into every topic. Ok, that's a lie, not everyone. buckeyepackfan has been the most hopeful and faith believing fan on the forum that I recall. But nearly everyone else has wanted some change or another.

Buddy, you are not alone. You are just stuffing the same thing over and over down our throats in every topic. THAT is why people jump your ass. It's because they want something NEW, something ORIGINAL, not the same FIRE EVERYONE mantra repeatedly shoved down their throats. Man, I have told his to you, please, PLEASE, read my words and understand.

It could be ME doing that and people would react the same way and we all I'm a grade A sweetheart loved by everyone!!!!

Am I wrong? Explain to me how I'm wrong? Why did Dakota speak to this forum "hyena-ing" me all the time? WHY? Show me the error in my thinking. I'm all for a good debate.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


Troy always had to find someone to make a victim. I strongly suggest using someoene with merit to use as your defense. He has zero, none.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

He's calling Buckeyepackfan a lier about Lions fans being happy.

In other words he's calling Buckeyepackfan a lier for posting this

Originally Posted by: beast 



I am not sure how one Lions fan being happy about getting back into the race for division title means every Lions fan is happy to be .500 though. I took the nephew being happy that they are back in it, not that they are .500.

Generally speaking, Lions fans are not happy that they are .500, they aren't. They believe they should be 6-2 and right there at the top of the division. They want a playoff win and at least NFC championship. At least, that's the gist I get from most of the Lions fans I have read and spoke to (don't speak to many, read many).

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beast
7 years ago

Am I wrong? Explain to me how I'm wrong? Why did Dakota speak to this forum "hyena-ing" me all the time? WHY? Show me the error in my thinking. I'm all for a good debate.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Yes your wrong. Because your self obsessed and think it's you against the world.

Because you hyena-ing half the board, so that half of the board hyenaes you back. It's a two way street that you're blind too. Which is the same reason it doesn't happen to others that agree with your opinion, because they rarely do it to others, so others rarely do it to them.

I would say simply stop doing it yourself, and it would stop both ways, but the reality is we're probably past that point, and you don't seem to have self control in doing it. I used to have self control, but I'm not sure anymore when it comes to you...

It seems like Zero has nicely told you your errors a couple times now... and I've done it very rudely a couple of times. It seems to be a waste of time, going in one ear and out the others... like Zero telling you error above... it just doesn't sink it.

If you treat others better (not what you think you're saying, but what AND HOW you say it) then they'll (normally) treat you better... the problem is your treat others poorly, and you don't see it or do you realize it... and giving you the benefit of the doubt here, maybe you don't mean to... but in the context of lack of tone, many of your comments are bad... just like mine have been to you.

You don't think you've ever demeaned me? No one here has ever demeaned me, scorned me, mocked me? Wow. Truly blind. I feel for you.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


Another error is your completely wrong assumptions, that are normally negative.

I'm saying the opposite, I'm saying that it's a two way street, that you have demeaned half the board and they have demeaned you. Only thing blind is your assumptions... that make both of us look like asses.

Of course we've demeaned each other, many different times. If you've been on this board awhile and don't know that, you must be blind. (PS: I think everyone knows that... so I'm not calling anyone blind).







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