I dunno, but I really think you need to hug it out find happy thoughts to think about.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Not many happier thoughts than seeing this regime go!

Lions fans happy to be 4-4? Why would that be? They're a losing franchise. To them this is fantastic. In Green Bay we have 13 Titles. In Green Bay 4-4 is a joke and not winning it all is a disappointment for those who understand the legacy of this once proud franchise.

It's a point that bears repeating and pondering... What other org would do less with 12? If he went anywhere else they'd be out of their minds and would be going all out to win. Not this moribund stale regime.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Lions fans are not happy to be .500 and won't be happy until they get to at least the NFC Championship game. A team like the Browns or 49ers would be happy at .500 right now.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

This would make what was reported 4 posts above this one a lie.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

If we keep saying we need to many pieces we will never go for it.

We need to create Pass rush and we need help at CB. Add a FA DE/DT that can pass rush and Top CB and we make the defense drastically better. If Rodgers, Cobb, Matthews, Nelson all work their contracts we have the ability to bring in some good FA, without mortgaging the future. Making our "All In" window, a 2-3 year opening.

If we wait another year or two, draft a few and try to develop, in the mean time other players will age and need to be replaced. The odds of the draft falling where the best player when we pick being at the positions where we need to improve the most isn't very good. Take Money and bring in GOOD FA at the positions we need so They can Draft the Best Player, not just the best player at a position of need. All we are not improving by just drafting and develop.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

Wow! You're seeing it now! I've said for years all this org does is try to refill the pipeline to keep the status quo. It never adds anything to better the roster, it's aim is to keep it the same. It's a flatline management approach. It's predicated on attrition hoping that maybe one year we'll get lucky while the rest of the league is DOWN, we will be THE SAME. Proper management is to try to get your team UP so it rises above others not wait for others to be down while you remain the same so you can sneak one. That is Ted Thompson in a nutshell.

There is no way in this world things will ever change with him at this point. He has to be ousted and the HC has to go with him.

Please, don't hate the messenger so much you ignore the right message. Don't go down with the ship...Packers way of thinking has been flawed from the outset. In the beginning as we were BUILDING with Rodgers and brought in new passion in the coaching we won something, although, it was frighteningly close to not happening, but that was the right mindset. Trade up for players you love and can make a difference. Add players like Woodson whom we were lucky nobody wanted and he had no other options. We got LUCKY back then. A very very fortuitous set of circumstances. The Packer way...let's rely on luck. Let's get a guy in here who wants to kick a$$ and dominate this league instead of one who plays safe liking the guys he's got. My god he's wasted so many years here.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

I've been saying this since before Rodgers and Matthews got their last contracts. I just don't say it like a butthead.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

Huh? I was told there would not be any maths.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Funny , my nephew is a huge Lion fan.
After the game last night he posted on FB:

"Woohoo Lions win! We're 4-4 and back in the race for The North title!"

I guess it's all how you look at things.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 

Wow! You're seeing it now!

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

This arrogant kind of comment is what bugs me. You act like you're the only one who has wanted the Packers to do more and everyone is wearing blinders or is a homer. Listen up, you were never the only one, not the first, you were just the only one who kept screaming at the top of their lungs in ... every ... single ... topic ... in ... every ... single ... post!!

Recap, you weren't the only one, you were just the overbearing obnoxious one. 🙂 (you're passionate, I don't mean this as an insult -- sorry if you take it wrong)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool