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Barfarn
Senior Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

Free Agent summary

Cap space: 39M
Perry -6M
Barclay -800K
Draft -2M
Bank for season -7M
Cap space left to spend: 23.2M

Added Picks:
4th round-Hyde
5th round-Tretter

This is a good day 1!

Someone [maybe PackFanWT?] said if we resign our own we don’t get better. But, the key to winning is quantity of 1st contract studs, so we get better by our youngsters ascending into contributors and 1st contract studs. We have very few descending vets. So all we need to do in Free agency is tread water for our 2016 Super Bowl worthy roster to win in ’17.

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Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

7 years ago

A Super Bowl worthy squad doesn't get obliterated in the NFC Championship Game. It at least puts up a credible effort.

beast
Select Member

7 years ago

Free Agent summary
Cap space: 39M
Perry -6M
Barclay -800K
Draft -2M
Bank for season -7M
Cap space left to spend: 23.2M

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

Nicely done.
But Draft I believe the draft will likely be over $5 Million.
Doesn't the 1st round picks, get over $1.5 million alone?

yooperfan
Veteran Member

7 years ago

"Treading water" gets you nowhere.
Eventually you have to start swimming forward, someone has to pull your ass out of the water or you will drown.
The Packers have been treading water under Ted Thompson for years.
It's past time for someone to come to the rescue.

steveishere
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Free Agent summary

Cap space: 39M
Perry -6M
Barclay -800K
Draft -2M
Bank for season -7M
Cap space left to spend: 23.2M

Added Picks:
4th round-Hyde
5th round-Tretter

This is a good day 1!

Someone [maybe PackFanWT?] said if we resign our own we don’t get better. But, the key to winning is quantity of 1st contract studs, so we get better by our youngsters ascending into contributors and 1st contract studs. We have very few descending vets. So all we need to do in Free agency is tread water for our 2016 Super Bowl worthy roster to win in ’17.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

Yeah that's not really a good way to look at it. As soon as that last game ended our pass rushers were Matthews and Fackrell so we went out and got the best edge rusher on the market for a good deal.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

I think what I said was if we JUST resign our own we don't get better. Sure we can get better by drafting youngsters and them developing into studs. The issue is, you have to hit on them and they have to fall into the positions where we need to improve.

If you look at draft history, getting 3 starters out of a draft class is an excellent draft. With 22 starters offense and defense it would take over 7 drafts to fill a team with drafted starters at every position. Assuming you don't lose any to injury and none of them were in positions where the team already had the starters. I'm pretty sure, no team has ever been that successful and lucky in the draft. Drafting and developing is a good strategy to build a team, but eventually you get to a point where all you are doing is maintaining. Drafting new players into the depth to replace players you drafted just a few years ago. At that point you can no longer just draft the best players, you need to draft need and that has even lower success rates.

Ted needs to keep drafting to keep the youth and talent in the development pool. But this team is past the stage where you can expect any drastic improvement just from the draft. Select players need to be brought into positions of need through FA.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

Barfarn
Senior Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

Nicely done.
But Draft I believe the draft will likely be over $5 Million.
Doesn't the 1st round picks, get over $1.5 million alone?

Originally Posted by: beast

The 39M cap space is for the top 52 contracts [Technically, only top 51 count right now, but I figure from 53 contracts because we're starting the year with 53 guys]. Perry's signing made him #53 guy so his entire cap figure counts against the 53.

Now Barclay's 1.3M deal only reduces the spendable cap by 800K, because a guy making about 500K is now bumped to #54 and his contract wont count against the cap.

And yes, the draft pool is 5.7M and the first pick is just under 1.8M; but for each drafted guy that makes the top 53 contracts, a guy making about 500K is bumped off, so the net affect to the spendable cap to sign all the draft picks is just under 2M.

And Yooper we're not treading water. We're treading water only during the FA period, while so many other GMs are drowning. You dont have to out run the bear; you only have to out run the person your with.

wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

Wrong. GB only added a compensatory 5th round pick in this year's draft. They won't get anything for losing JC until 2018. More than likely it too won't be any more than a 5th round pick. Hyde will prob be a 6th round pick. It's pretty difficult to build an organization relying on extra 5th round picks.

yooperfan
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

Your 🐻 analogy is hilarious!
Thanks for putting a smile on my old grizzled face.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#10

You dont have to out run the bear; you only have to out run the person your with.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

and if you can't out run them, shoot them in the leg.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

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