You are angry for your twisted conclusions.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

No rule that a poster can't be critical of Ted nor is there one about being supportive or a groupie. You desire censorship. That's very very sad and small of you and you continually violate the rules that we do have while hollering about enforcement of ones we don't.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

That ridiculous contract he was given last offseason was a Ted Thompson special. The classic overpaying your own.

Thank goodness he's been released. One year too late but better than usual.

2.25 million for last season. He leaves us with 750k dead money for this season. Just an atrocious contract and even worse when you study how this org handled the RB position coming into the 2016 season. Cleveland-esque.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Really, because you're conclusion is twisted right there... I find your amusing personally. But I'm tired of all the people complaining about you behind your back, or block you to get away from you... at least I tell you to your face.


You put everyone in that same box and most of the time you're completely wrong.

I don't desire censorship, I desire common sense... which you lack and the reason most have kicked your ass in most of debates.... but you haven't been able to see it.

And you're so blinded by putting everyone in the same box you really have no clue about people personal opinions.

People need to be critical of Thompson... but your logic behind it has been piss poor at best. Hell people are more critical of Thompson than you'll ever know because you never shut up and let others make good point that you go on your one vs all bull shit matches.

You get off at being the lone guy, but the reality is, there are multiple people who make must better anti-Thompson cases than you ever will, because you can't take your blinders off long enough to make a reasonable and logical debate, but your lust for winning and finding points has you attempting to read between the lines when there are no lines.

And you're the one talking about rules and crying for your daddy to step in because you can't handle the pressure of playing with the big boys.

Originally Posted by: beast 

If you read the first post, the thread isn't about the RB position... it's about Ted Thompson and contracts.

If you know about Uffda basic opinion, he doesn't like the calm passive approach, he wants to be more aggressive and sign more guys... which comes with bigger contracts... and when there are bigger contract (in this case for Starks) Uffda doesn't like that either....

So it's one mega cluster fuck circle... that no matter what happens he finds a negative way to spin everything.... if people aren't signed, then they're not trying hard enough and they're horrible at their job... if they are signed then it's they're bad deals and they're horrible at their job.

That's what the first post of this thread is really about... Ted Thompson being horrible at his job according to Uffda.... but because it's spun into a Starks contract we're suppose to threat it any differently than the 100s or 1,000s or other post/threads Uffda used to say Thompson is horrible at his job? .................. Why are we suppose to treat it differently? It's the same old shit that he always post... nothing is different about it.... other than Starks name is in the header, but the post is about Thompson, o Starks



How many different people have called Uffda out on his clear bullshit over the years and how many people he has put off over and over and over again and lately no one has done a damn thing.

Originally Posted by: beast 

I can see your point that this is thread is about more than just Starks. In my mind a "Goodbye thread" is mainly about the player but one can expand it to include management decisions as well. Therefore almost every topic can ultimately come down to Ted and Mike. But if they do it can get pretty boring. Nothing is accomplished if the same old same ol is hashed and rehashed.

To a comment uffda makes later in this thread that the players bear the stamp of Thompson, Since he has been GM for 11 years the team should reflect his attitude/opinion. He brought every single one of them here. That doesn't mean we should discuss the entire roster here.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

This is why I don't post during the season. The time to post is during the off-season. This is the GM's time to shine. The season is over...you look at it, and figure out what you need and go about trying to improve your roster from the previous year. There is no better time to talk about Ted than right now. He's our quarterback right now and he's the only one playing and worth discussing for the most part. Every player hinges on Ted... our own FA's depend on Ted. Our draft depends on Ted, our involvement in FA depends on Ted. It's all about Ted and the talk should reflect that. This is the time to look back on what he's done or not done for this past year and previous years and speak to what he should do for the coming year.

In the Sam Shields thread I said nothing about Ted. Didn't see a reason to do so. Felt compelled to bring him up in this thread because I truly feel James contract was a true head scratcher and I'm glad we're rid of him and it. That needed to be brought up rather than a Starks eulogy. I think everyone loves James and has fond memories of 2010. I do.

Every team's GM is in the spotlight right now. The things they do or don't do over the next few months will impact the product on the field for all 32 teams. Ted talk is prime discussion material from now until the final cuts are made and the 53 is finalized heading into Week 1. This is why he's here... to attempt to build a SB winning team, just like the other 31 GM's. He should be heavily scrutinized until the season starts and talk of him should be omnipresent. I'm sorry that my talk of him is largely unflattering but it's not an act. I can't stand that he runs/ruins this team.

One final thing...it never ceases to amaze me that if the talk I did of Ted happened to be "positive" there would be no backlash at all. There could never be enough as long as it was well received by the masses. The fact that it's a dissenting opinion draws ire and charges of boring, annoying, etc. You don't comprehend like I do. I don't mean that as I comprehend better just that my perception is totally different. It is terribly tiring for me to read over and over how we're so lucky to have Ted and he's one of the best and how things are so good for us in Green Bay. That grates me as much or more as my opinions to the contrary grate you. Subjectivity rears it's ugly head and I'm a focal point or an issue while the manic praiser is never ever thought of as any type of issue when they can be worse than me in the opposite direction. Constant positive spin is just yuck and so unbalanced. You will find that I speak things that are both but right now it's time to focus on Ted. He's the one who we rise or fall with this off-season. What's he gonna do? Is it acceptable for him to do what he usually does? What else are we going to talk about? This is the dead zone until the draft. Not many are big combine fans. I like it but who wants to talk about it? Ted is one thing we all have an opinion on and that's where the talk should center IMO. It needs to stay off personal attacks because someone happens to hate your viewpoint.

EDIT: Here's the kind of thing that happens on other boards. I read this and just shook my head. We want to be writing things like this?:

Poster 1: Overall one of the most athletic RB's the Packers ever had. Lacked some field vision, had nervous hands at times and would run out of control...all parts of the same problem. He was just a few minor glitches from being an all time great. He must have driven coaches crazy.


Poster 2: I agree he could have been right up there with Jim Brown and Earl Campbell, no doubt.


No question this is more "fun" and "feel good" but is it even in the realm of reality at all? No. It's simply ridiculous fan talk that has zero basis in reality. Yes, it's an opinion, but c'mon...really? Wow. I would rather talk about how his contract was stupid and it was good to be rid of it than this made up fantasy reflection. Reminded me of the poster here who said Andrew Quarless was as good as Rob Gronkowski or the one who said Boykin was as good as Alshon Jeffery. Different strokes...

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa