Packers release James Starks· Page 6

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

Two problems. The amount of the contract. The age and decline.

21st highest RB contract? There are 32 teams so that would mean James was paid better than 11 other teams top back.

There would be 64 backs among the 32 teams if you're counting backups. James was in the top third. Way too much.

You've already seen what Rodney said and the comments to it. All trolls including Rodney? No. Just non homers who care about the Packers.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

musccy
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#52

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

2 yr deal, and he hadn't hit 30 yet. Wherever he ranks on rb payouts is deceptive since there are a lot of rookie contracts he was likely to exceed with any vet deal he would have signed.

993 total yards and 5 tds in 2015 and you sign him to a max of 3 mil/year. We spent 3+ times as much for Sam Shields to play half a game last year.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#53

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

What was the better alternative at that time? Going with Lacy without any veteran backup? Bringing in somebody who doesn't know the offense?

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#54

What was the better alternative at that time? Going with Lacy without any veteran backup? Bringing in somebody who doesn't know the offense?

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

Better alternative was not paying James that kind of money. He was more of a vet min type guy and he got 2 years 6 mil. Bad deal for us on front side and in hindsight.

We played Knile Davis, Christine Michael, Ty Montgomery and Don Jackson at RB. None of those guys knew the offense for the RB position very well. That is Packers Ted talk right there. Stick to what we know even if it isn't good enough. Geesh.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

beast
Select Member

8 years ago

#55

You've already seen what Rodney said and the comments to it. All trolls including Rodney? No. Just non homers who care about the Packers.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

No, Rodney is respectable and not a two faced troll like you.

There is a huge difference... the difference is you will find a way to bitch about it no matter what happens and you always do. That's not like Rodney... they can make a move that Rodney likes.... but no matter what happens you will find fault that's a huge difference and that's what makes you the troll of this site.

You say you want FA vets... Then Ted Thompson signs and then you complain about how much it cost... it never ends.... you will find something to complain about. .. that's your goal and you've stated you hate the ra rate Packers fans, your are the ba ba Packer fan.... just as blind and biased as they are, but in the opposite direction

beast
Select Member

8 years ago

#56

21st highest RB contract? There are 32 teams so that would mean James was paid better than 11 other teams top back.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

The difference is clearly the rookie scale, so Starks was the 21st best paid veteran RB .. so what?

The whole thread is still stupidity over a small percentage of contract ... there is more dead cap space then Stark earn this last year. But we're stupidity talking about Starks because the troll is trying to stir the pot.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#57

AND ONCE AGAIN !!!

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I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#58

Rodney and I are very similar. I don't rip everything. The pervasive mindset of this org deserves to be ripped, so I rip it. He rips what he believes needs to be ripped, also. Just as Bob McGinn does.

If I don't like the way we operate, and I don't, then it follows most of what I have to post is going to be unflattering toward the org. The converse is also true. You buy the company line so it follows you are a more agreeable happy fan.

Loved the Peppers acquisition. I really loved it for one season...Possibly, two. Despised it for this year and would be out of my mind if they bring him back again like Barfarn wants.

I will despise our offseason if it's the typical do nothing off season. I already hate that it appears the only change in coaching is Clements leaving and hot McGarigle joining.

Love the release of Starks. Love it! Late but love it.
Disappointed Sam had to go but can't count on him.

Hoping Peppers is done. The Ted Thompson fan mindset would be to be okay with overpaying him since he knows the D and we have nobody else

Hoping Clay is restructured. His cap number makes him uncuttable for one more season.

Really want to see some moves whether FA signing or trades. I would like a first wave signing. Prefer a CB because if we don't get a top flight CB it all but guarantees we reach for a CB in Round 1 and it will be sold, again, as BPA. Tired of failed high defensive draft choices and listening to how we need to wait 3 years before we can expect them to make a difference.

Tired of injuries. Softest team in the league almost annually.

Hated our preseason approach last preseason. Paid for it with 4-6.

Want to see a focus on 2017. Not just a focus on the next 3 seasons.

Get Logan Ryan from the Pats and use your 1st rounder on a true BPA whether Dalvin Cook, OJ Howard, Williams from Clemson, or one of the other top WRs.

Time to see surfable waves or at least ripples in the water instead of the same stagnant sea.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

wpr
Preferred Member

8 years ago

#59

Originally Posted by: beast

beast while I may not agree with every one of your posts, there are enough of them that I can say whether I agree or not, I love ya man but you have to stop attacking other members. I have been gone all day so I have not had the time to read the posts. No doubt you are frustrated that still doesn't give you leave to make personal comments. I know that there have been a few members that have gotten to me in the past. I probably didn't handle it as well as I should have. I even put myself in a time out for most of last year. It isn't worth getting worked up.

Take a deep breath clinch your teeth and move on. Please.

This thread has been teetering all day. Keep the focus on Starks. Talking about the RB position as a whole is reasonable too.

beast
Select Member

8 years ago

#60

Talking about the RB position as a whole is reasonable too.

Originally Posted by: wpr

If you read the first post, the thread isn't about the RB position... it's about Ted Thompson and contracts.

If you know about Uffda basic opinion, he doesn't like the calm passive approach, he wants to be more aggressive and sign more guys... which comes with bigger contracts... and when there are bigger contract (in this case for Starks) Uffda doesn't like that either....

So it's one mega cluster fuck circle... that no matter what happens he finds a negative way to spin everything.... if people aren't signed, then they're not trying hard enough and they're horrible at their job... if they are signed then it's they're bad deals and they're horrible at their job.

That's what the first post of this thread is really about... Ted Thompson being horrible at his job according to Uffda.... but because it's spun into a Starks contract we're suppose to threat it any differently than the 100s or 1,000s or other post/threads Uffda used to say Thompson is horrible at his job? .................. Why are we suppose to treat it differently? It's the same old shit that he always post... nothing is different about it.... other than Starks name is in the header, but the post is about Thompson, o Starks

I love ya man but you have to stop attacking other members.

Originally Posted by: wpr

How many different people have called Uffda out on his clear bullshit over the years and how many people he has put off over and over and over again and lately no one has done a damn thing.

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