Who dissents more strongly than I do? That has everything to do with this issue.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Okay. If you insist. I'm an excellent nuanced debater and you think the arguments I make change?

Pick your favorite example. Would love to learn of what you're speaking to.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

I never said you'd be blocked or wpr! Your "research" is flawed as is your reading comprehension.

You're not articulate either: A fact is something that can be proven true or false. This is pseudo-intellectual argument. A coach having ten job offers is a fact; a coach being a hot commodity is not a fact because it cant be proven true or false. One may see a college LB coach as "hot" just for getting a call from Packers.

Let me add another: your argument is duplicitous. You demand "proof" from others [and Lovie's Smith comment is extremely strong evidence to that end]; but you provide no proof to support your contention that Lovie is outright lying. Again, if you want proof...YOU FIRST!

We're still laughing over here about your "analysis" in the thread where you say being a GM is easy, because your eyeball test is so reliable. I haven't responded to that yet, because we sent some of your Ted is an idiot posts to 1265 along with your "articulate" and "researched" Ted didn't go to no GM school and eyeball test stuff. We're trying to gather PROOF as to the efficacy of your statements. We've asked among other things, using your comments, why GB spends so much on a scouting department. Seems unnecessary given your "articulate research." When we hear back we'll respond.

Heck, it can be expected, if 1265 can fire the entire scouting staff and hire you for 7.85/hr, then I can report that you are a rising star and a hot commodity. Oh and if GB offers you a job, I bet other franchises will too. Someone may even go as high as 7.99/hr for your services.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

Take this thread. Either McGarigle was a hot commodity or he wasn't. It's not a view it's a fact one way or the other.

We can debate TT, Mike McCarthy and other things all day. That's fun and more vague.

Are you going to answer the question at hand? You seem to stick to me and not the subject.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Here's Lovie on the hire of Garrick McGee as his OC:

Smith called McGee "one of the top offensive coaches in the nation."

Meanwhile, Bobby Petrino said of McGee as he was leaving him to join Lovie that "he understood and wished him well".

Per Barfarn, that would mean McGee was a hot commodity per Lovie because of his praise and not a hot commodity due to Petrino's muted response.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Again an argument that is not researched or articulate. Such a short childish amoral argument, filled with logic errors, dishonesty and backed by a complete lack of knowledge and an argument that may be bigoted.

I know McGee too, it been a while, he was a genius then, not just in football, the guy is very intelligent and I’d bet he’s grown even more. Trashing a person in their profession that you know NOTHING about, and citing no basis, is amoral argument and could constitute defamation per se [nono] if your words carried any weight. 😂

I suspect you know McGee is Black and I really hope your errant opinion of McGee was not formed solely on that. Without providing any info to the contrary you are saying Lovie ‘s positive assessment of McGee’s offensive mind is false on its face…a face that is Black. [nono]

What Smith said is not only very NORMAL talk of an incoming coach; but concerning McGee it is 100% true. And quite irrelevant.

FOCUS: The issue is whether Smith’s assessment coaches moving out the door is coach-speak.

If over effusive praise of a coach moving on is good for the program; then Smith would issue effusive praise about every single coach no longer working for him. Right? I mean Duh, if it good for the program you do it every time, don’t ya? [whead] Ya know, like the OC that McGee replaced, did Lovie say he was a rising star? Here’s a list of Illinois coaches that Lovie has let go:

Ryan Cubit
A.J. Ricker
Al Seamonson
Jeff Hecklinski
Mike Bellamy
Nathan Scheelhaase

Not a single one described as a “rising star!” Why? Because Lovie reserves such comments for only when they are the truth. McGarigle is a freaking rising star. Did you hear what Kraft whispered to Belicheck during the Lombardi presentation? “Psst, Bill, I might replace you with rising start McGarigle next year.” [bdance]

PS: Research can be agenda driven and selectively cherry-picked to obfuscate truth. Too bad you failed to research and or be able to understand Petrino and McGee's long standing relationship, the timing of McGee jumping ship, and Petrino's temper.[nono]

Originally Posted by: Barfarn