Datone wasn't drafted to be an OLB. He was supposed to be the answer on the DL for the read option. Yes, I understand guys change positions but in Green Bay it's for one of two reasons... 1) The guy isn't good enough to play the position he was initially slated for and they want to give one last ditch effort to see if they can get anything opposed to nothing out of that particular player OR...2) Because there is NOBODY in a certain position so someone else HAS to go over there. See: Clay Matthews.
It's shameful that we have to play Clay Matthews inside because we have NOBODY else to play in there that isn't an absolute liability reducing our overall defense's effectiveness because Clay is playing where he shouldn't be playing. It is also shameful that there are guys who should be able to at least be decent who were high picks that have to be moved to some weird "hybrid" role because they aren't good enough at their singular original role.
Do you not see the problem with this? In moving a garbage guy you're just dumping trash at two positions instead of getting rid of the guy and finding someone who can play the one position he can't and then find another guy for the hybrid part who can play. We're using subpar players to cover spots on our D that should have the focus on actually finding guys who can play each position singularly and play it well.
It's sad.
Originally Posted by: uffda udfa
People that carry rigid unyielding uncompromising myopic absolutes to an inappropriate degree have great difficulty with longstanding employment or relationships.
simile: Person A possesses an uncompromising myopic absolute in his hate for meat. This is reinforced by a moral position that meat is highly inefficient food source in a starving world and causes a number of long term health issues. If a friend, a girlfriend, an employer sits down to eat a burger or sits at a table with another eating a burger or the employer serves burgers in his cafeteria; Person A browbeats and disrespects that friend, girlfriend employer until they come around to Person A's way of thinking. Eventually, the friends says they moved to Alaska, the girlfriend again says she's washing her hair; and the boss says we're downsizing.
You take one sometimes TRUE fact [Your assertion that Jones was drafted only to stop Zone read is not only ridiculous, but 100% FALSE], but blow it up to ridiculous lengths and derive an uncompromising opinion that others must be browbeat into.
Examples: a player ran x at combine-he's slow
The offense was bad in 2015- MM is not an elite offensive mind
Harrell, Sherrod were busts-so is Ted Thompson
When others try to present alternate facts or a fresh perspective on the situation; you metaphorically stick your fingers in your ears and start mumbling "lalalalallalallla" until you see their lips stop moving and then pull out a verbal club of sarcasm, loaded questions, logical errors and ridicule to bludgeon then with until they acquiesce to your idea.
Life in this world nor football is built on a system of absolutes. It is the cap era. If Ted Thompson drafts 4 HOFers every year, he is a bad GM if all others draft 5 or more. See it is RELATIVE! You cant bash Ted Thompson for his drafting/utilization of players UNLESS YOU COMPARE IT TO ALL OTHERS.
We are not "weak" at TE or ILB; because weak or strong is RELATIVE; Richard Rodgers is a tackle breaking machine scoring a TD every time he touches the ball if the defense is 5th graders [okay, you're right, sometimes he will get tackles by a 5th grader].
Let me give you just one example of weak!!!! Before camp bodies were signed to futures contracts Seattle only had 4 OLman under contract: Britt [ranked 2nd worst left guard by PFF]; Gilliam [surely one of the 3-4 worst RTs] and guards Glowinski and Soklia that have not played a game and were 4th and 6th rounders. Barrington, Thomas, Palmer, Bradford and Ryan, and Rodgers, Henry, Perrillo and Backman are 1000x better at their respective positions than that collection of stooges.
Every team has weaknesses, every year. This is not an indictment of the GM, to have less than great players at a position or 2, it is a condition of the NFL world. But it is an indictment of the GM to have disgusting weakness at a critical position like Seattle.
This rigid myopic idea that players are ever drafted for one position or for one purpose is outrageously inept thinking. Drafting is about
projecting and chumchum there is nothing absolute about projecting. Jones was a guy who could have gone several ways:
(1) he could have gone full blown Lacey and he'd be a NT; (2) put on a few pounds and became a 3-4 DE; (3) lost a few pounds and became OLB; and (4) played DE in a more traditional 4-3 scheme, which we run alot!
See this is how it would go for you as a GM looking ONLY for the perfect player for the perfect position: [You obviously went 0-16, so your drafting #1] Rnd 1: Andrew Luck; Rnd 2: Pass; Rnd 3: pass; Rnds4-7: Pass.
And every team does what the Packers do with their players...EVERY TEAM. However no other team is as effective at it as MM and TT. The only team close in NE; and if we take away Brady or if we traded, 2000-2007 Favre and AR for Brady; then you'd see Ted Thompson is a top collector of talent and MM is top curator of it.