uffda udfa
9 years ago
So, Datone Jones sucks at DE for the first few years of his career...

What do we do? Let's hybrid him to DE/OLB so he can suck at TWO positions. No, don't think to actually improve the OLB position ...just move a scrub DE out there to make two positions weak.
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DakotaT
9 years ago

So, Datone Jones sucks at DE for the first few years of his career...

What do we do? Let's hybrid him to DE/OLB so he can suck at TWO positions. No, don't think to actually improve the OLB position ...just move a scrub DE out there to make two positions weak.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Don't you have enough irons in the fire already? 😂

His position is 4-3 defensive end. Unfortunately he was drafted by a team attempting to play a 3-4 defense. Just another square peg forced into a round hole.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago

Don't you have enough irons in the fire already? 😂

His position is 4-3 defensive end. Unfortunately he was drafted by a team attempting to play a 3-4 defense. Just another square peg forced into a round hole.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



You know these are appropriate questions to ask!

😁

Why, why, why do we do things like this? Mike Neal playing OLB. Julius Peppers OLB at end of his career after never playing the position.
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Laser Gunns
9 years ago

You know these are appropriate questions to ask!

😁

Why, why, why do we do things like this? Mike Neal playing OLB. Julius Peppers OLB at end of his career after never playing the position.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Because our staff thinks they are smarter than everyone else.

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uffda udfa
9 years ago
I think it's because Ted doesn't like to admit he found drafted another 1st round bust. Hmmm, let's see how he does if he gets moved out to OLB? Hey, we'll try anything to try not to get next to nothing out of yet another 1st round defensive pick.
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
Just what they are doing with him. Pass rushing DE. I would like to see him work on quickness and add about 10lbs of muscle so he can pass rush next to Daniels.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

Because our staff thinks they are smarter than everyone else.

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



Actually, just the opposite.

Dom wants "tweeners," so that he's never stuck with the "wrong" package on the field. He can always have his guys switch formations and run a different defensive play. Problem is, with tweeners, you never really have the RIGHT players on the field either.

This staff also likes to save roster spots with versatility. That's why they only carry 7 offensive linemen on the active roster.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago

Actually, just the opposite.

Dom wants "tweeners," so that he's never stuck with the "wrong" package on the field. He can always have his guys switch formations and run a different defensive play. Problem is, with tweeners, you never really have the RIGHT players on the field either.

This staff also likes to save roster spots with versatility. That's why they only carry 7 offensive linemen on the active roster.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



That makes no sense if they're the wrong player to have on the field in the first place.

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macbob
9 years ago

I think it's because Ted doesn't like to admit he found drafted another 1st round bust. Hmmm, let's see how he does if he gets moved out to OLB? Hey, we'll try anything to try not to get next to nothing out of yet another 1st round defensive pick.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



You seem to be criticizing the team for trying to get more contribution out of Jones and advocating that instead they should be trying to get nothing out of him.

Trying him out at OLB seems to be a low-risk option. If he doesn't work out at OLB, then cut him.

My expectation is they are unsure if Peppers is coming back and they are trying to cover their bases.
Barfarn
9 years ago

You seem to be criticizing the team for trying to get more contribution out of Jones and advocating that instead they should be trying to get nothing out of him.

Trying him out at OLB seems to be a low-risk option. If he doesn't work out at OLB, then cut him.

My expectation is they are unsure if Peppers is coming back and they are trying to cover their bases.

Originally Posted by: macbob 



Good points Macbob. And last year we heard that moving a college safety to CB was stupid as well; but Randall did quite well didn't he?

It also could be used as a negotiating ploy with Neal, Perry and/or Peppers. It is interesting this is announced at the same time CM3 is said to be going outside.

The move worked out well for Peppers and Neal and I think Jones is much more fluid and athletic than Neal.

It may also be a statement of what we have in Ringo and expected leaps for Boyd and Pennell.
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