No more wondering.. Kampman will play OLB..· Page 4

Pack93z
Select Member Topic Starter

15 years ago

I think all you guys thinking that the 9 pick will be a tweener OLB prospect are reaching a bit..

Look at the roster at linebacker prospects.

Poppinga
Bishop
Hunter
Thompson
Monty - if he resigns.
Chillar
Kampman
Barnett
Hawk

There are plenty of pieces to work with there.. to find someone that can get the job done.

Now look at two other positions on the roster..

OT.

Cliffy
Colledge - If you slide Colledge over.. which he should be, then the gap at Guard becomes larger.
Barbre
Tauscher - Resign?

Or Defensive line..

Pickett
Jolly ????
Harrell ????
Jenkins
Malone?

Combine that with BPA theory and I don't think Maybin, Brown, Orakpo or any other of those edge players will fit that bill.

How many of these high draft pick edge players really turn out to be the outstanding edge players.

Suggs, Ware and Merriman... Players like Harrison, Woodley, Scott and so forth were later round picks.. hell Harrison was cut by the Steelers how many times?

Will we add talent at LBer.. I hope so, but if we are going to draft players at particular positions.. somehow I don't think backers are going to fit.

DT, DE or Oline... yep.. maybe even a corner that can play in space..

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

bozz_2006
Registered

15 years ago

#32

the one thing that concerns me about the new defense is that the jobs of the d-linemen are so thankless. I'm not worried about Pickett. I'm not overy worried about Harrell. I'm worried that Jenkins will stop trying, when he can't get his sacks.

shield4life
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#33

If it's the contract year of Kampman we're screwed. If he doesn't like the scheme and his new role his going to leave. Is it worth risking losing him? Trade him get something in return.

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DakotaT
Select Member

15 years ago

#34

I think all you guys thinking that the 9 pick will be a tweener OLB prospect are reaching a bit..

Look at the roster at linebacker prospects.

Poppinga
Bishop
Hunter
Thompson
Monty - if he resigns.
Chillar
Kampman
Barnett
Hawk

There are plenty of pieces to work with there.. to find someone that can get the job done.

Now look at two other positions on the roster..

OT.

Cliffy
Colledge
Barbre
Tauscher - Resign?

Or Defensive line..

Pickett
Jolly ????
Harrell ????
Jenkins
Malone?

Combine that with BPA theory and I don't think Maybin, Brown, Orakpo or any other of those edge players will fit that bill.

How many of these high draft pick edge players really turn out to be the outstanding edge players.

Suggs, Ware and Merriman... Players like Harrison, Woodley, Scott and so forth were later round picks.. hell Harrison was cut by the Steelers how many times?

Will we add talent at LBer.. I hope so, but if we are going to draft players at particular positions.. somehow I don't think backers are going to fit.

DT, DE or Oline... yep.. maybe even a corner that can play in space..

"pack93z" wrote:

Excellent post. DL and OL are definitely what are required. Our future NT will be drafted in the 2nd or 3rd round, and I think we are going after a serviceable 3-4 DE in free agency. I really want an OT in the first round to help shore up the O-line.

If the LT Ted Thompson wants isn't sitting there at #9, I expect a trade down with someone that wants to grab a quarterback ahead of San Francisco.

Also, and I'm sorry Bigby lovers, but I want a veteran assignment sure safety to go with Collins.

MassPackersFan
Member

15 years ago

#35

Well if one of the OT's is there, that'd be fine with me. And Raji would be fine with me too. But I do feel like a young, fired up 3-4 OLB opposite Kampman would be hard to block against. There's something to be said for steady drafting addressing the weaknesses on the team, but first round I say you go for an impact player, especially now that we have our team depth up. Address the other issues in the 2nd and 3rd.

And as much as I support an OT at #9, I think if we start that OT in 2009 we are in for a long ass year.

Rockmolder
Honored Member

15 years ago

#36

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

I don't know. Just take a look at the OTs from last year, they all seemed to be starting material from day 1.

Like I said in the draft section, I'd still orefer Raji if he's there. Orakpo would be fine by me to, but that's more because of his value. He should be gone by pick 9 in my eyes.

earthquake
Member

15 years ago

#37

Kampman is the last player i'm worried about. I dont think he will have a problem at OLB. He is a super high-energy, high-motor type of guy that is always around the ball. Chasing down WR's and RB's after plays have broken down saving TD's, how may times have you seen him do that in his time here?

He's always around the ball, or in pursuit when it seems that other players have already quit on the play. I think he will thrive as an OLB.

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ILikeThePackers39
Registered

15 years ago

#38

GOD this has been a boring two weeks....

Is it free agency time yet?

Combine?

Draft?

Daytona 500, hurry up and get here.

Spring training, let's get it going.

"bozz_2006" wrote:

Yes. PLEASE. I want answers at this point - the speculation's actually going in circles now. Bring on free angency!

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shield4life
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#39

Could we switch back to 4-3 everything looked / was more easier ...

Glad To Be A Packers Fan.

porky88
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#40

"pack93z" wrote:

You can't argue anything against players who are different people. I think trends are to a certain extent overrated.

The chances of every hybrid linebacker working out is slim to none, but the chances of one or two working out is probably good. The same goes for most positions. Joe Thomas is an excellent tackle, but Robert Gallery is a bust.

The Packers have Jeremy Thompson, Jason Hunter, Aaron Kampman, and Brady Poppinga on their roster as outside linebackers.

The rest are probably projected to be inside backers.

It's not exactly a stout position.

Furthermore I believe that the weakest link on the team is also a pass rush. Moving Aaron Kampman to outside linebacker and not giving the defense another pass rush threat just puts the Packers back to square one except they run a different scheme.

I would say you can't say anything is for certain in the draft especially with a guy like Jason Smith and B.J. Raji all in play and Ted Thompson could move down for Tyson Jackson, but a outside pass rusher is very much in the mix.

EDIT:

It's also not a secret that Ted Thompson isn't scared to take a project in round one and then fill in positions of needs in rounds two, three, and four. I could see a Jason Smith like pick in round one and Smith not starting early on and then I could see Clay Matthews in round 2 and Matthews starting from day one. Obviously nothing can be ruled out.

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