It's hard to read TOO much into the game. It seemed that once Aaron Rodgers got injured, the entire game changed. The Green Bay Packers by and large are Aaron Rodgers. If something is wrong with him, this team is rarely going to win, especially against a top quarterback. This defense is not going to carry the Packers and haven't since 2010, really. An exception here and there doesn't change the overall trend, either. Dom Capers just can't stack up against good quarterbacks. Not many can, but he certainly cannot.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 

The Packers ARE still an elite team - would you bet against them versus ANYBODY? Well, maybe Denver, but nobody else. The damn shame of it, though, is this team could be so much greater if Ted Thompson just did a better job of personnel once you get beyond oru world's greatest QB, our superstar first string RB, and our excellent top 2 or 3 WRs. Beyond that, it's mostly mediocrity. That doesn't mean the team is not elite, but it just could be so much greater yet with a little bit better general managership.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 

I said it at the time in the chat: Mike doesn't need to resort to that kind of bullshit to win this game.

No big disappointment though. We all knew we were the better team, but we also all knew we'd go down there and shit ourselves. Set your watch by it.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

The Packers ARE still an elite team - would you bet against them versus ANYBODY? Well, maybe Denver, but nobody else. The damn shame of it, though, is this team could be so much greater if Ted Thompson just did a better job of personnel once you get beyond oru world's greatest QB, our superstar first string RB, and our excellent top 2 or 3 WRs. Beyond that, it's mostly mediocrity. That doesn't mean the team is not elite, but it just could be so much greater yet with a little bit better general managership.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 

Would you bet ON them versus anybody? I mean yeah, if you put down a hundred every game you probably come out ahead in the end but that doesn't mean its because they are elite. It just means they are better than most of the teams. Being better than most of the teams does not mean you are an elite team. Being better than most teams means you will win more games than you lose, sometimes many more. It means that you will likely make the playoffs every year and it means that yeah, there is a chance that you will win it all. Being elite means you go into every game feeling that the other team has little to no chance to win. Sure, every team has a chance but your chances against elite teams are more like the "any given Sunday" type chance or the blind squirrel finding a nut chance.

IMO there is one elite team in the NFL right now and that is the Broncos. The cowboys may be close and may have a chance to get there tonight and there are a couple of other teams flirting with the designation. Then there are a few teams that are always close to being in the discussion simply because of one or two players who always seem to give them a chance (I'd put the Packers and Patriots and Saints in this group based on the historic play of Rodgers, Brady and Brees and maybe even the Chargers this year because of Rivers)

Not just picking on you Texas but it sure seems like I am hearing more and more comments like those once spouted by Uffda. If he is still lurking I wonder how long it will be before he comes back saying, I told you so.

Originally Posted by: sschind 

So are the Cowboys still "elite"?

My point: This elite talk in October is nonsense.

Originally Posted by: IronMan 

So are the Cowboys still "elite"?

My point: This elite talk in October is nonsense.

Originally Posted by: IronMan