Rockmolder
16 years ago

this is the NFL and the egos are huge so this is probably implausable but...

Could Mike be using Nolan as transition to Moss? I mean is that crazy? Like Nolan comes in runs the show while Moss gets added say-so. Kind of like bringing up Moss?

So Mike goes out and says "look Nolan, I like Moss as a coach and i think he has what it takes to be the defensive coordinator here. but its a risky move at this time and i think you can help solidify the situation while training/working with Moss"

I mean thats a possibility at least right now right?

"Packnic" wrote:



I don't think this is that weird. I doubt whether he'd tell Nolan though.

I think Moss will just be on the coaches roster for another 2-3 years, then Nolan will be gone, and McCarthy will hope Moss' has learned the trade at that time. (If McCarthy will stay that long)

With McCarthy's spot not seeming to be as solid as it did last season, maybe he's just going to the veteran, not taking any bigger chances than firing the entire coaching staff by appointing a rookie DC.

All these posibilities... I just hope we'll hear what'll happen soon enough.
porky88
16 years ago
I think Winston Moss is going to stay on regardless because I believe he has experience in the 3-4 and 4-3 so it make sense to have a guy with experience in playing or coaching in both when your probably going to run a hybrid.

Plus he's a good coach. Regardless of how the linebackers play, Moss is a highly motivated and highly regarded coach around the NFL.

I think Mike Nolan is a good hire and I know critics aren't going to like it because of the poor season McCarthy and Nolan had in their first year in San Francisco, but that 49er roster was awful and that had more to do with the ownership and previous regime than it did Mike Nolan and Mike McCarthy. Not to say Nolan did a good job later on as he obviously didn't, but he won't be calling the shots here.

Thompson and McCarthy will.

I think this is a good get for both sides assuming it even happens and if Mike Nolan helps turn around the Packers defense, he'll probably be in line for a head coching job again.
djcubez
16 years ago
Well, let's look at where Nolan's defenses ranked:

1993 Giants -> 5th, 12.8 Pts/gm, 291.4 Yds/gm
1994 Giants -> 11th, 19.1 Pts/gm, 309.4 Yds/gm
1995 Giants -> 17th, 21.2 Pts/gm, 330.8 Yds/gm
1996 Giants -> 14th, 18.6 Pts/gm, 315.4 Yds/gm
1997 Redskins -> 16th, 18.1 Pts/gm, 314.4 Yds/gm
1998 Redskins -> 24th, 26.3 Pts/gm, 334.6 Yds/gm
1999 Redskins -> 30th, 23.6 Pts/gm, 356.6 Yds/gm
2000 Jets -> Tied 10th with PHI, 20.1 Pts/gm, 301.2 Yds/gm
2002 Ravens -> 22nd, 22.1 Pts/gm, 334.6 Yds/gm
2003 Ravens -> 3rd, 17.6 Pts/gm, 271.3 Yds/gm
2004 Ravens -> 6th, 16.8 Pts/gm, 300.2 Yds/gm


Hmm. Besides the Ravens years it seems like his defenses have a trend of regressing. However, since those are his early years and now he has some head coaching experience, dealing with adversity and bad situations in which he was in control, I think stepping into a defensive coordinator role again might be benificial. We'll see though.
Pack93z
16 years ago
Well Lombardi is now hopping on the Nolan train of a story as well...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/01/national-football-post-tavern-talk-91/ 

I hear the Packers are committed to becoming a 3-4 defense. This must mean Mike Nolan is coming on board very soon.


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Rios39
16 years ago
Well placement doesn't mean as much to me as what you see on the field, pass rush, run stop. On big plays and all that. Minnesota is ranked 13th this year in points given up per game. But we know they are a real dangerous defensive team that can cause turn overs and put a serious pass rush on any D.

We just gave up way too many big plays and it was consistent, once they hit a big play we couldn't adjust to stop it again. And all the way throught the game we wouldn't create pass rush OR be able to stop the run.

Obviously Mike is going to need more talent on the D just to be safe, but that's something the draft and FA SHOULD be able to take care of. I think if we fix the line up. Add some new looks and you fix the D.
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longtimefan
16 years ago
I dont like the nolan talk at all

He is going to get the itch again to be a HC, and what if its at the end of the season..

Screw that
wils0646
16 years ago

Well Lombardi is now hopping on the Nolan train of a story as well...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/01/national-football-post-tavern-talk-91/ 

I hear the Packers are committed to becoming a 3-4 defense. This must mean Mike Nolan is coming on board very soon.

"pack93z" wrote:



I don't like this....

I don't see our personnel even fitting this scheme.
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go.pack.go.
16 years ago
It's going to be very interesting....I can't wait to see how it plays out.
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bozz_2006
16 years ago
i don't either, wils.
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go.pack.go.
16 years ago
Mike Nolan can coach the 3-4 AND the 4-3, he will do what this team is most fit for, which is the 4-3. I read this, I'm not just making it up.
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