steveishere
10 years ago

You completely missed the reason I posted that screen shot... I was given the palm emoticon for stating his average per year was in the 8's. The point was for the poster that I was wrong on that and spotrac.com was used as justification. The top line spoke of his extension numbers but ignored the current year and 5 year total as evidenced by the ridiculous numbers shown below the top line numbers that are NOT reflective of the deal in totality.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Ok that's fine. He still got a 4 year deal for 39 million but yeah we still get the benefit of his last deal to cheapen the overall cap hit.
uffda udfa
10 years ago

Ok that's fine. He still got a 4 year deal for 39 million but yeah we still get the benefit of his last deal to cheapen the overall cap hit.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



A (his original deal 1 year left 3.05 million) + B (his extension 39 million for 4)= C (his full deal in totality 42.05 million over 5) If numbers are all correct and in way deal is structured he will average 8.41 million per.

Yes...that is important. A true 9.75 million per average would've resulted from an 11.7 million per average on his extension alone. His extension was 7+ million less than that. 39 vs. 46+

Overall...this is a super deal for Jordy. It's getting fine reviews from the NFL community on the Packers side of it which is opposite of what it was on the Shields overpay.

Nice job by the Packers keeping him for something that is workable.





UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


steveishere
10 years ago
Shields deal was interesting to me because going by yearly average we over paid him but by structure and the low guaranteed money he got he'll only be over paid in 2016. I think the team is banking on him still having room to grow and being a better player 2 years from now.

I expect Jordy's deal to be a little more evenly structured than heavily backloaded like Shields.
uffda udfa
10 years ago

Shields deal was interesting to me because going by yearly average we over paid him but by structure and the low guaranteed money he got he'll only be over paid in 2016. I think the team is banking on him still having room to grow and being a better player 2 years from now.

I expect Jordy's deal to be a little more evenly structured than heavily backloaded like Shields.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



That's funny you brought up the structure...I had an edit to my above post but scratched it as I was going a little crazy with all the scenarios and numbers. I really want to get a look at the first year cap hit. If his original cap charge was 3.05 or is it 3.5 (I've seen both) I would think you have to add 5 million or so to that getting you to 8-8.5 million cap charge leaving only 5 million, or so, left for Randall.

His signing bonus the 11.5 million will be no doubt spread out over the next 5 years (I believe they can spread the cap charge out over this year also not just the following 4 years) of the deal which is a little more than 2 million per. His guaranteed money is an additional 2.7 million. Will they pump that into the first year of the deal...or put it back further in it? 11.5 million SIGNING BONUS with 14.2 GUARANTEED meaning there's an extra 2.7 million in there to be given guaranteed somewhere, and I don't believe that can be spread out so I think it'll be paid this season or next. If they could move that 2.7 off until next season that would make sense in paving the way for Randall before this season is over. If they don't plan on addressing Randall this year they may as well pay Jordy the extra 2.7 million, now, and boost up his cap charge for this season.

His cap charge for this year will be a very strong indicator of their plans "right now" for Randall. If they pump that cap charge high for Jordy they aren't extending Randall very soon most likely.
UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


Zero2Cool
10 years ago
Jordy Nelson reminds me of a more polite Al Harris, but equally annoyed by being asked questions, lol.

Here's Nelson after training camp yesterday talking about his contract. Best couple minutes you'll spend today.
http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/Nelson_My_wife_and_I_are_excited_to_be_here/c3bb32b9-ac43-41f7-aa23-95a14abeecf5 
UserPostedImage
Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
UserPostedImage
“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”
UserPostedImage
"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (8m) : Ravens ain't got crap for picks.
Zero2Cool (9m) : Aaron Rodgers is choosing between Steelers and Giants. The Vikings are officially out on him, per RapSheet
dfosterf (28m) : Current cap space 29.6 million.
dfosterf (32m) : Hobbs 2025 cap hit just under 6 million. Banks 2025 cap hit just over 9 million
Mucky Tundra (7h) : beast, this is news to me! Tell me more about these, "draft picks." They seem mighty mysterious! 😉
beast (9h) : Yes, the Ravens have draft picks
dfosterf (10h) : Good luck to him.
Zero2Cool (11h) : Eric Stokes signs with Raiders
Martha Careful (12h) : Tyler Linderbaum C
Mucky Tundra (12h) : Cap space?
Zero2Cool (12h) : Do Ravens have anything we'd even entertain to have?
Mucky Tundra (14h) : I've seen trade ideas of Jaire going to the Ravens all offseason
beast (15h) : A probably false rumor is suggesting CB Jaire Alexander is being traded to the Ravens, again probably false
beast (15h) : Commanders might have a dominant offense the next 3 years at least
Zero2Cool (17h) : San Francisco 49ers announced they have released DL Leonard Floyd.
Mucky Tundra (18h) : Er getting traded twice like that
Mucky Tundra (18h) : Huh, LT Laremy Tunsil traded from Houston to Washington. Never heard of a top OT getting traded in his career like that
Martha Careful (11-Mar) : Minnesota Vikings cornerback Byron Murphy Jr. is returning on a three-year, $66 million deal
Zero2Cool (11-Mar) : Damn
Martha Careful (11-Mar) : Saints are re-signing DE Chase Young to a three-year, $51 million deal worth up to $57 million.
Martha Careful (11-Mar) : 49ers releasing FB Juszcyk any interest?
Zero2Cool (11-Mar) : digits of four
Zero2Cool (11-Mar) : four digits
Zero2Cool (10-Mar) : Eh, don't think so. better to split
Zero2Cool (10-Mar) : on new site, would Fan Shout and GameDay Chat show same messages?
Mucky Tundra (10-Mar) : The Hall of Fame stuff probably came from a scout as Zero said; at this point though it's hard to see them moving ZT from RT
Mucky Tundra (10-Mar) : Regarding ZT at C, Gute had said he felt C was ZTs best position after he was drafted.
Zero2Cool (10-Mar) : LB Oren Burks to sign a 2-year, $5M deal with the Bengals.
Zero2Cool (10-Mar) : Based on how it was worded at the time, probably scout.
beast (10-Mar) : I don't think the media person ever told the public the source, but Gute or LaFleur did say they thought Tom has earned his spot at OT
beast (10-Mar) : I think it was supposedly unnamed Packers source
buckeyepackfan (10-Mar) : Was that Gute or Lefleur or someone else?
buckeyepackfan (10-Mar) : Zach Tom could be a really good guard, an all pro tackle, but probably be a HOF Center. Who said that?
Zero2Cool (10-Mar) : It's March 10th. I don't think anything is done.
Martha Careful (10-Mar) : if we think CB is done, we have a poor roster
Mucky Tundra (10-Mar) : CB and OG in FA, narrows down the top of the draft board a little
Martha Careful (10-Mar) : Meh....I hope we can get Ward 49ers or Murphy Vikings
Zero2Cool (10-Mar) : Yes
Martha Careful (10-Mar) : did Nate Hobbs just sign with us CB Raiders?
Zero2Cool (10-Mar) : Jets have agreed to terms with former Ravens CB Brandon Stephens
Zero2Cool (10-Mar) : Aaron Banks’ PFF grade was 0.1 worse than Elgton Jenkins last year.
Zero2Cool (10-Mar) : Muwahaha
Zero2Cool (10-Mar) : Oh awesome! Nostrawrongus says 4th so SUPER BOWL ON TRACK!!
dhazer (10-Mar) : to be honest the freee agent market isnt that great this year so I can handle a 500 yr or sub 500 is fine, i see us as 4th in division
dhazer (10-Mar) : Hi Dave long time no see
Mucky Tundra (10-Mar) : Slaton to the Begals=Guaranteed Big Boy in the first 3 rounds
Mucky Tundra (10-Mar) : WE SIGNED SOMEONE!!!!!!1!
Zero2Cool (10-Mar) : Former #Packers DT TJ Slaton headed to the #Bengals on a 2-year $15.1M deal.
Zero2Cool (10-Mar) : 4-year $77M for Packers new guard Aaron Banks
Zero2Cool (10-Mar) : OL Patrick Mekari to sign with the Jaguars.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
13h / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

22h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

10-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

10-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

6-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

6-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

4-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

4-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

4-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

3-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

3-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

1-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

1-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.