I know this is a hypothetical argument, but I don't like the premise....something can be done to ensure you win a Super Bowl on 5 year intervals, and the Packers aren't currently doing that. What is this magical formula for success? How can I say what I'd live with/accept if I don't know what the team is doing to somehow achieve this.

Are they selling the farm on FAs? I'm not a fan because they don't always pan out and it leads to cap hell.

Are they trading away 5 draft picks to get 3 first rounders? First rounders don't always pan out (J. Reyonlds, J. Harrell, T. Mandarich, T. Buckley...)

Settle for a mid-tear QB that you only have to pay 5-8mil/year on so you can spend more on other positions? Not a fan, I've loved watching Favre and Rodgers at their best.

Of course I'd love the Packers to win (at least) once every 5 years, I'd probably give up beer for that (OK, who am I kidding) but I also enjoy that the Packers are at least competitive each year and I'd much rather go into 5 off seasons with hope than just 1 out of every 5.

Originally Posted by: musccy 

I think I am on the same page as steve on this one. I would rather have a chance every year and be competitive than be awful for many years and be a winner. I will admit that I hate losing more than I like winning and I love winning. I would probably put up with players and coaches that I despise if that meant they put us over the top or perhaps some cap hell years that made us less competitive. An 0fer season. No way. A 0-16 season would hurt me more than a Superbowl win would make me happy. Don't know if that makes sense.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 

musccy I said 5 years as a part of my post. sschind didn't limit it to any specific time period. Just winning the SB. You can say every 2 years or every 10 years. That is your choice.

As for how they do it, it doesn't matter. If they trade away all the picks for another 1st rounder or sign a bunch of FAs it doesn't matter. He is only saying they will win a SB guaranteed. What is it worth to you?

Originally Posted by: wpr 

After reading the posts so far I can see most people would rather float along hoping for something wonderful to happen instead of taking sschind up on his guarantee. Personally I find it a little silly but if that is what you want I don't care.

I guess it comes down to some people like to hunt squirrels and fish for crappie while others like to hunt Elm and go deep sea fishing.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

Of course this whole thread is fantasy. He started by saying there is no way to guarantee a SB. Don't get hung up on that people.

It is the off season. There is not a lot going on at this time. All we have to discuss is:

Which current players will they try and re-sign?
Which college players should they draft?
Which FA should they sign?
What does the team need to do to be more like ______?

After reading the posts so far I can see most people would rather float along hoping for something wonderful to happen instead of taking sschind up on his guarantee. Personally I find it a little silly but if that is what you want I don't care.

I guess it comes down to some people like to hunt squirrels and fish for crappie while others like to hunt Elm and go deep sea fishing.

Kanta I understand you saying how much you would hate the 0fer season. If they won the SB every 5 years I don't think I would like it either. But as I said, I could take it if it was only every 3 years. Keep in mind I sit int he stands for 2 of those games. I have a 8-10 hr drive plus a room and meals and gas and other expenses. I agree it would be painful.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

2, 5, or 10 years isn't the point to me either. My point is that even though this is a hypothetical question, it seems that the tone behind this and the previous thread was there was something that could be done to guarantee (or at least appreciably increase the chances) a SB and the Packers weren't doing that.

To answer the intent of this thread, I would not be comfortable with the team doing anything that could appreciably jeopardize the team's chances of being competitive each September.

Originally Posted by: musccy 

So you could basically just stop watching football for 5 years and just watch the Superbowl the 5th year and you'd be fine with that? Not me I enjoy the games and the struggle that teams go through. It's not just "floating along hoping for something wonderful to happen" it's enjoying watching good football every year. If you know your team is going to be shit for 4 years and then win the 5th year how is that enjoyable? It isn't it's miserable and for what? To see 53 guys get a superbowl ring, yipee good for them but that doesn't really do anything for me. Why even be a football fan in that case?

Originally Posted by: steveishere 

I don't look at it so much as crappies vs. deep sea fishing. When I go musky fishing, I don't ever fish "numbers" lakes that have tons of small muskies in them. I also don't ever fish really deep cold oligotrophic lakes where you know there are giants but they're few and far between - I like to know I have a pretty good chance of catching one and although the potential for a monster isn't phenomenal, it is still there.

Originally Posted by: musccy