Oh, wpr, I totally agree. Completely. I was not trying to slight him, just looking at his comprehensive value to the team by being a contributor both on D and STs. He made an INT in the Superbowl!!! The guy had never been a stalwart defender in the secondary, whether it be at S or CB, but he has indeed been serviceable when called upon in a backup role. He is a veteran, and indeed a star on STs.

He made a bunch of gaffes at CB his first few seasons in GB, but seems to have gotten better. My meaning was that he never broke through to win a starting position back there. For whatever reason.

Originally Posted by: play2win 

Well then ... no more dumb penalties from him and no more playing secondary ;)
then he can stay

to go along with what you said wpr - I started to pipe down about bush as last season got underway; seeing him gun it down to the 1-10 yardline to down some balls down there.

Originally Posted by: Dulak 

That's just BULLSHIT!!!! You can't get over JB's 1st few years with The Packers when he did have penalties called on him and he wasn't very good at Corner.

I suggest you take a look again at the Cardinal game last week, one of the guys who did his job very well was Jarret Bush.

He's never going to be a lockdown guy, but he is still better than a rookie with "all the potential in the world" running around not knowing what his assignment is.

Im' gonna make one statement, if all the veteran players get let go and the only VET left standing is Aaron Rodgers, then The Packers are in real trouble.

How many damn years do we have to go through watching a bunch of kids try to learn to play the game as it effects the outcome of the season as a whole.

Teams Need Veteran Leadership to be successful.

Tha Packers have already lost too much from last year.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 

Who would you keep Kuhn or Bush? I'd choose Kuhn.

It depends how you look at it. There would be still a lot of Vet Leadership, Sitton, Lang, James Jones, Nelson, Brad Jones, A.J. Hawk, Tramon Williams, Morgan Burnett, Clay, Raji, Pickett, even Cobb is taking the Leadership role now.

Bush is expendable. So is Kuhn. But I'd take a lot at keeping Bush with these young corners we have coming on. Only way I see us keeping him is if no safteys show up to make the team behind the 3 locks at Saftey. But that's just my opinion.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 

I love Kuhn. Had him as my avatar last season. If these are the 2 guys fighting for #53 I take Bush in a heart beat. There are 3-4-5 guys who can do Kuhn's job and do it as well as he can. At this point there is no one who can do Bush's job with his reliability. At least no one that we as fans have seen. Someone may be doing it in practice but we don't have all the access that Mike and Uncle Ted have.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

I hope Kuhn is gone,

Or we at least find a way to hold on to Amosa, maybe dump a TE

Originally Posted by: RajiRoar