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11 years ago

I don't have any list. But, ISTM...

When one is speculating about the final cuts, you need to distinguish between those on the roster who are going to be on the game day roster and those "of sufficient potential" that they can fill in on the game day roster because of injuries to someone in the top 45.

Bush is not in the latter group. He is what he is at this point. He's not a bad DB, but he's nothing special. He's going to make the team, if he makes the team, because he can perform on special teams to a very high level. But the team isn't going to keep a special teamer unless he's active-on-game-day quality. Bush will make the team if Mike McCarthy sees him as in the 45, not just in the 53.

So my question is this: who are the 8 likely inactives in week 1? And who is Bush competing against for that 45th spot.?

Originally Posted by: Wade 



coming up with 45 is almost impossible as there will be several Uncle Teddy Blue Light Specials that make the team.

Both Kuhn and Bush would only make the team if they were a part of the 45. Barring injury issues neither of them would be a game day inactive.

As for Who is Bush competing against for the 45th spot, It would be against the last OL, WR, RB, DL, LB and DB on the depth chart. Plus those who are injured and out for the week. There will always be 3-4 of them minimum 5-6 would not be unheard of around GB even if minimizing injuries was a priority this year.
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11 years ago

coming up with 45 is almost impossible as there will be several Uncle Teddy Blue Light Specials that make the team.

Both Kuhn and Bush would only make the team if they were a part of the 45. Barring injury issues neither of them would be a game day inactive.

As for Who is Bush competing against for the 45th spot, It would be against the last OL, WR, RB, DL, LB and DB on the depth chart. Plus those who are injured and out for the week. There will always be 3-4 of them minimum 5-6 would not be unheard of around GB even if minimizing injuries was a priority this year.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Yeah, injuries usually dictate the active/inactive list, especially for the Packers. They'll never have all 53 guys healthy, or even close it seems.

DarkaneRules
11 years ago
I would say this topic is well named because at this point I would be surprised if any of those veterans got cut with all the injuries going on. Mulligan's rise could lead to the fall of Williams. But behind Finley, that group lacks experience in this offense due to the injury of Quarless.
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Laser Gunns
11 years ago

Amosa over Kuhn? No..

If he makes the PS that's fine with me.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 



IMo

Kuhn is overpriced and there are numerous guys who could do his job cheaper, and just as effectively.

Kuhn is a good pass blocker, but let's not pretend Kuhn is has been blowing open lanes for our RBs.

He's had 53 rushing attempts the last two years combined (26.5 per year) averaging 2.6 yards. He has had 15 catches each of the last two years as well, for a total of 225 yards.


^all this is very easy to replace^

Maybe I am crazy, but I believe GMs nowadays should be looking for the next Marcel Reece 2.0.(who is also a U-Washington product) A FB who defenses cannot just write off as a blocker or a check down receiver. A FB who can threaten in the passing game as well as running. 3 receivers becomes 4 (5 if the RB is good). The fake FB dive could actually draw some linebackers! SCHEME SUPPORT! It just gives the offense more options!

Of what I consider the 4 dimensions of a FB, Kuhn is only good in one.

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Also, can we cut Ryan Taylor.. He has had 1-catch (though it was a Td) in 3 years....

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wpr
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11 years ago
Taylor was never signed to be a TE per se. He was brought in to be a ST ace which he has done very effectively.
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Gaycandybacon
11 years ago

IMo

Kuhn is overpriced and there are numerous guys who could do his job cheaper, and just as effectively.

Kuhn is a good pass blocker, but let's not pretend Kuhn is has been blowing open lanes for our RBs.

He's had 53 rushing attempts the last two years combined (26.5 per year) averaging 2.6 yards. He has had 15 catches each of the last two years as well, for a total of 225 yards.


^all this is very easy to replace^

Maybe I am crazy, but I believe GMs nowadays should be looking for the next Marcel Reece 2.0.(who is also a U-Washington product) A FB who defenses cannot just write off as a blocker or a check down receiver. A FB who can threaten in the passing game as well as running. 3 receivers becomes 4 (5 if the RB is good). The fake FB dive could actually draw some linebackers! SCHEME SUPPORT! It just gives the offense more options!

Of what I consider the 4 dimensions of a FB, Kuhn is only good in one.

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Also, can we cut Ryan Taylor.. He has had 1-catch (though it was a Td) in 3 years....

Originally Posted by: RajiRoar 



If we don't keep Kuhn it's hard seeing we keep a FB at all. If Kuhn converts strictly to a lead blocker, it would do wonders for him. He is a versatile FB, sure he hasn't run the ball effectively, but that's because he is a FB. We need him to stop being our short yard back, don't hand the ball off to him anymore. Maybe sometimes, but not as much as it has been for him across his career. Aaron Rodgers has spoken highly of Kuhn, he always says Kuhn knows the offense as well as him. That's high praise for a FB.

I say keep him for one more year, obviously they aren't showing signs of letting him go. If you wanna get better at Running the ball, getting rid of your FB is not the answer. If you get Kuhn, Mulligan, and Finley on the field at the same time, you could do a lot with that..

Yea you could say it's easy to replace, but you can't replace experience and leadership.

I won't be upset if Kuhn is released. I'll be surprised.

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Yea I don't think Taylor will make the team, he might be a good special teamer, but we got other guys that could do that. Plus he's been banged up. It probably comes down to him and Quarless who makes the roster.
beast
11 years ago

Taylor was never signed to be a TE per se. He was brought in to be a ST ace which he has done very effectively.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I wanted to see him be ask to back-up both TE and FB... I was hoping he might become the starting FB down the road, but I haven't heard of them even trying him there. He did play both FB and TE in college.
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