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11 years ago
This is much ado about nothing.

The only player that has a significant difference is D Jones. They say third and GB took him in the first. The boys are wrong. Even if he is not all we hope Jones to be he was certainly worth a first round selection. No later than mid second at worst.

Eddie Lacy, David Bakhtiari, Johnathan Franklin, Josh Boyd and even Sam Barrington were near value or better.

JC Tretter may be a bit of a reach in the minds of many people. But he is rated based on his play as a OT. Uncle Teddy won't use him there so whatever value rating he has been assigned is not valid.

That really leaves the 6-7 round picks.


However, as I expected, many of the Packers' later draft selections were not even targeted by Dallas as possible picks.

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In the 6 and 7th rounds teams look for different things in players. These are typically long shots to make the team. Often they are players who will need a couple of years seasoning before they can step in and start or make a significant contribution in a rotation. Not every team can afford to roster spots to 3-5 players and allow them to develop. (1 or 2 players developing over a 2 or 3 year period.)
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PackerTraxx
11 years ago
I'm so happy Jones stays highly involved with putting his team together. Keep it up Jerry.
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OlHoss1884
11 years ago

According to their board they got their 22nd 23rd and 25th rated players with their first 3 picks. how are you getting that they rated Fredrick in the top 50 or 60? If their board was ranked strictly by need they wouldn't have had 3 2nd round QBs.

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You misunderstood...they rated players based on their needs, not their prospect rankings. Everyone ELSE rated their guys lower. The Packers board was a lot closer to the consensus, because they based it on the overall value of the player regardless of position. That's why they are one of the premier franchises as I pointed out, and the Cowboys are mired in mediocrity and have been since Jimmy Johnson stopped drafting for them.
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steveishere
11 years ago

You misunderstood...they rated players based on their needs, not their prospect rankings. Everyone ELSE rated their guys lower. The Packers board was a lot closer to the consensus, because they based it on the overall value of the player regardless of position. That's why they are one of the premier franchises as I pointed out, and the Cowboys are mired in mediocrity and have been since Jimmy Johnson stopped drafting for them.

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



Well I haven't seen anybody elses board ever so I wouldn't know.
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11 years ago

I'm so happy Jones stays highly involved with putting his team together. Keep it up Jerry.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



why would anyone REAL GM stand in front of the team's board and have his picture taken? Where were his kids at that time? They should have gotten his walker, some Geritol or Boost or something and lured him off to the side.
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DoddPower
11 years ago

why would anyone REAL GM stand in front of the team's board and have his picture taken? Where were his kids at that time? They should have gotten his walker, some Geritol or Boost or something and lured him off to the side.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Unless it was some reverse-psychology technique and it was really a completely jumbled board just to mess with peoples mind. I doubt it, but it would be funny.
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11 years ago

Unless it was some reverse-psychology technique and it was really a completely jumbled board just to mess with peoples mind. I doubt it, but it would be funny.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



I thought about that but then I considered the source. Plus the players were more or less in their proper places.
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beast
11 years ago

why would anyone REAL GM stand in front of the team's board and have his picture taken? Where were his kids at that time? They should have gotten his walker, some Geritol or Boost or something and lured him off to the side.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



You got to remember this is the 2nd time this has happen in the last couple of years. Ether they don't care or Jerry Jones likes this. I figure he likes this, because he's never met a camera he didn't like and because he likes to show how much power and control he has. What better subtle way that have pictures taken in front of that board?


Jerry Jones is working on his legacy, and he's trying to make it a good one. As one article I read put it, "Almost two decades and six head coaches later, the owner who loves the spotlight like no other is still trying to escape from Jimmy Johnson's shadow." because he push the guy who help build the mid-'90s dynasty and has since followed it up with a franchise with one playoff win in 15 seasons.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

This is much ado about nothing.

The only player that has a significant difference is D Jones. They say third and GB took him in the first. The boys are wrong. Even if he is not all we hope Jones to be he was certainly worth a first round selection. No later than mid second at worst.

Eddie Lacy, David Bakhtiari, Johnathan Franklin, Josh Boyd and even Sam Barrington were near value or better.

JC Tretter may be a bit of a reach in the minds of many people. But he is rated based on his play as a OT. Uncle Teddy won't use him there so whatever value rating he has been assigned is not valid.

That really leaves the 6-7 round picks.



In the 6 and 7th rounds teams look for different things in players. These are typically long shots to make the team. Often they are players who will need a couple of years seasoning before they can step in and start or make a significant contribution in a rotation. Not every team can afford to roster spots to 3-5 players and allow them to develop. (1 or 2 players developing over a 2 or 3 year period.)

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I basically agree. It's an apples and oranges comparison. The biggest surprise to me is they had Franklin rated so low.
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beast
11 years ago

They're also switching to the 4-3 Tampa 2 style on defense

Originally Posted by: beast 



Packers aren't switching to the 4-3, they're just assembling personnel for it.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



When I said "They're", I meant the Cowboys are switching to the 4-3 Tampa 2 style on defense.

Packers kind of play 4-2 in nickel package (two DTs and the OLBers at the line like 4-3 DEs but standing up) and the Packers will run cover 2 but not Tampa 2 ... though with Jones maybe they could try that some, might be interesting. At least if Jones can cover well enough. Also might be interesting to see a dime package with 3 Safeties. One as a coverage ILB type.
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