NFL rookie grades, NFC North: Lions quartet stars; Packers boosted by...

macbob
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a year ago

Detroit led the NFC North with an A- grade, and Green Bay was second with a B+ grade.

Not sure I agree completely, as Detroit's grade was awarded solely on their 1st and 2nd round picks (4 players, 3 of them selected before GB's 2nd pick), where GB's rookies from rounds 1-7 were first-year contributors.

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Mucky Tundra
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a year ago

Originally Posted by: macbob

Even after a successful first year, I'm still not buying the "Gibbs at 12" was a good move. I saw a lot of football Twitter accounts use the Lions success this season as proof the pick worked out well but it feels like a lot of the guys taken in the teens and early twenties would have helped out more in the long run vis a vis roster needs. For example, going with Gonzalez+Campbell, Gonzalez+Kancey or LVN+Flowers.

Edit: legit forgot they drafted Williams the year before

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macbob
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a year ago

USAToday's Packerswire evaluates Packers 2023 Rookies after 1st year.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/reviewing-packers-impressive-rookie-draft-class-in-2023/

Spoiler alert: All were rated in the top 10 rookies at their positions except for two (#11 & #13 rookies at their positions), with 3 not playing enough to be rated.

macbob
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a year ago

And CBS Sports does the same. Spoiler Alert: Ranked Packers Rookie class #2 of the 32 teams. Take that with a healthy grain of salt--they rated all of the NFC North 2023 rookie drafts in the Top 10; with Lions #4, Bears #6, and Vikings #8.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-2023-nfl-rookie-classes-after-year-1-texans-claim-top-spot-packers-rams-and-lions-crack-top-10/

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Year 1 hits: WR Jayden Reed, TE Luke Musgrave, TE Tucker Kraft, DL Karl Brooks, WR Dontayvion Wicks, EDGE/DL Colby Wooden

The Packers went full "YOUTH MOVEMENT" and it paid immediate dividends, particularly on offense. By the way, Green Bay doubled-up on receiver in 2022 -- Christian Watson and Romeo Doubs -- then tripled up at the position in 2023. Reed was a slot star with eight touchdown in the regular season, Wicks demonstrated his athletic gifts translate to big plays, and the tight end duo combined for 65 catches, 707 yards and three touchdowns. On defense, the uniquely shaped Brooks was a wrecking ball late in the season and into the playoffs, and they even got respectable productive from fellow versatile defensive lineman Colby Wooden.

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