Your suggestions on how to fix Packers rushing attack· Page 7

Wade
Veteran Member

12 years ago

Wouldn't it be cool if we could say this about even part of our defense?

Originally Posted by: macbob

Wade-we can say that about our entire defense--our fundamentals are ridiculous... [palm]

How true.

(though I think Rock meant "ridiculous good" re: SF's)

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

Pack93z
Select Member

12 years ago

#62

I find the situation on defense a whole lot more concerning than fixing the running attack.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

Balanced and time consuming drives and establishing an attitude, especially late in games helps the defense. Running the ball helps the offense. Being able to run will help the consistency of a defense.

I would argue relevance.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Wade
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#63

I find the situation on defense a whole lot more concerning than fixing the running attack.

What does fixing it mean anyway? Benson's a battering ram. In the last five years he's gone over the 4.0 ypc mark just once. And that included four years of running behind, what looked like to me, a very underrated Bengals o-line. That works when you keep running him up the gut and tiring defenses out... Something I certainly don't want to see from this Packers team.

If I got McCarthy figured out a bit, he just wants someone who can keep the defense honest a bit. Someone who doesn't get negative yards and keeps the threat of the run alive... Even if it's at a 3.8 yards per carry as Benson has managed to get over his career. I don't think the running game will be "fixed" at any point this year. We'll just roll with what we got right now.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

I understand the "just enough to keep them honest" approach. I do. Really, I do. (It's not my favorite, but given the pass-friendly era we're in, we're not going to ever get my favorite.)

But as Macbob pointed out earlier in the thread, how many of GB's "running" plays are called with the shotgun formation. ISTM that even "just enough to keep them honest" needs more running plays with the QB under center than McCarthy is wont to call.

I don't want running up the gut every play. But I do want more up-the-gut plays that aren't called via the shotgun.

And I want a run game good enough that it destroys the other team's ability to come back in the 4th quarter.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

Pack93z
Select Member

12 years ago

#64

A follow up with how running helps the defense. Used Pts Per Game vs Pass Mix % in play calling; divided into 3 parts (top 3rd (11 teams).. middle (11 Teams) and bottom third) from last season.

Top 3rd in Scoring defense.

Pass ratio of 53.06%
Carries per Game 28.61
Pts Allowed per Game Range (14.2 - 20.6)
Points Scored Avg - 20.69
Winning % 53.98

Further.. only two of these teams had a ratio of more than 55%
4 Teams Here under .500

Middle Third

Pass Ratio of 56.82%
Carries Per Game 26.91
Pts Allowed Per Game Range (21.1 - 23.6)
Points Scored Avg - 24.67
Winning % 58.52

7 Of this group had ratios of greater than 55%
1 Team here Under .500

Btm Third

Pass Ratio of 56.64%
Carries Per Game 26.25
Pts Allowed Per Game Range (24.2 - 30.9)
Points Scored Avg 21.09
Winning % 36.25

7 of this Group Had Ratios of Greater than 55%
5 Teams here under .500

Packers

Packers ranked 19th in Points Allowed (Middle Tier)
Pass Ratio of 58.29%
Carries per Game 24.69

Points Scored 35 Per Game

I was expecting a more balanced winning percentage for those with better defenses, but I think it illustrates the better defensive teams run more often than those below it. Passing more increased points scored.

Other than that.. the stats prove inconclusive. Even that defense wins at a better clip last season with the rule book preference leaning more towards the passing game.

SuperBowl Winning Giants (Both Tier) vs Pats in the middle tier.

Another shocker for me...

Teams with a Greater than 55% pass ratio winning percentage : 50.66%
Teams with a Less than 55% pass ratio winning percentage : 49.04%

More than likely all meaningless.. but I find interest in it.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

pack_in_black
Registered

12 years ago

#65

Anyone mention Alex Green yet? From what little I've seen, I love his speed and huge-gain, big-play potential that brings. I'd like to see them feed the kid for a game, let him hit a rythm and see what he can do..

Thanks to Pack93z for the sig!

zombieslayer
Registered

12 years ago

#66

Originally Posted by: pack_in_black

Will Alex Green even be suited up? Was he suited up last week?

Not being sarcastic. I'm asking if anyone knows this. I too would love to see what Alex Green has to offer us.

My man Donald Driver

(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷

play2win
Senior Member

12 years ago

#67

Will Alex Green even be suited up? Was he suited up last week?

Not being sarcastic. I'm asking if anyone knows this. I too would love to see what Alex Green has to offer us.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

Yeah, Green ran a couple for little yds and a cloud of dust... I think... trying to forget that one entirely.

PackerTraxx
Senior Member

12 years ago

#68

I'm hoping the solution is playing the Bears.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

yooperfan
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#69

It was nice to hear that the Pack put some serious effort into running the damn ball.
I'm guessing they had close to 100 rushing yards.

nerdmann
Premier Member

12 years ago

#70

It was nice to hear that the Pack put some serious effort into running the damn ball.
I'm guessing they had close to 100 rushing yards.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan

I think Benson had 81 yards on 20 carries.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

dfosterf (2h) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount

dfosterf (2h) : Trade, cut or keep

dfosterf (3h) : that from Jaire

dfosterf (3h) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'

Zero2Cool (3h) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"

dfosterf (3h) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it

Zero2Cool (3h) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.

dfosterf (3h) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent

dfosterf (3h) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility

dfosterf (3h) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission

dfosterf (3h) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers

Zero2Cool (4h) : That someone ... likely the agent.

Zero2Cool (4h) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.

Zero2Cool (4h) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.

Zero2Cool (4h) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.

dfosterf (5h) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"

dfosterf (5h) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that

dfosterf (6h) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?

Zero2Cool (21h) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.

dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move

dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately

Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.

dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : I don't recall that he did which is why I asked.

Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb

wpr (9-Apr) : yay

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Mark Murphy says Steelers likely to protect Packers game. Meaning, no Ireland

Zero2Cool (8-Apr) : Struggling to figure out what text editor options are needed and which are 'nice to have'

Mucky Tundra (8-Apr) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you

Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : The spotting of the ball IS the issue. Not the chain gang.

Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Will there be a tracker on the ball or something?

Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : uh oh

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

29 - 34

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

16 - 10

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

30 - 14

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

29 - 31

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

24 - 19

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

34 - 13

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

24 - 22

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

30 - 27

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

14 - 24

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

20 - 19

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

38 - 10

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

30 - 17

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

31 - 34

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

30 - 13

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

34 - 0

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM

Vikings

25 - 27

Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

22 - 24

Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM

Eagles

10 - 22