tromadz
12 years ago
I said this 2 days before Packers\Bears:

I say stay the course with Benson. It looked like he was close to getting through a hole and breaking one open a number of times, but our offensive line just isn't the best run-blocking unit right now. I think they'll pick it up as the Packers run more.

Originally Posted by: tromadz 



I stand by that obviously. Benson with 100+ total yards. I love that he can catch the ball! His running is decent enough but I DO think it will improve. Even if it DOESN'T, still better than Ryan Grant. But I still think he'll hit holes harder and smarter soon, much like the improvement he made from game 1 to game 2. They went with more things he was comfortable with. It just takes time.
zombieslayer
12 years ago

I'm hoping the solution is playing the Bears.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



Well, PackerTraxx called it.
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Cheesey
12 years ago
Benson said he was a little too impatient the first game. He sure looked better yesterday.

I'm hoping that Starks can get healthy and give some breaks to Benson without the team missing a beat.

And i also want to see what Green can do. We could have a real running game to go with the passing game, which of course would open up the passing game even more.
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macbob
12 years ago

Benson said he was a little too impatient the first game. He sure looked better yesterday.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I don't think it was Benson so much the first game as McCarthy's play-calling. I went back and looked at the play-by-play. Benson had 9 carries, 6 in the first half and 3 in the second. Of the six in the first half, 5 were draw plays from the shotgun. He had only one run with AR behind the center. So more than half of Benson's 9 total carries were draws from the shotgun. Bears game McCarthy mixed it up a lot better and called more runs from a regular formation.
zombieslayer
12 years ago

I don't think it was Benson so much the first game as McCarthy's play-calling. I went back and looked at the play-by-play. Benson had 9 carries, 6 in the first half and 3 in the second. Of the six in the first half, 5 were draw plays from the shotgun. He had only one run with Aaron Rodgers behind the center. So more than half of Benson's 9 total carries were draws from the shotgun. Bears game McCarthy mixed it up a lot better and called more runs from a regular formation.

Originally Posted by: macbob 



Agreed. I think 🇲🇲 called a much better game overall the 2nd game. His runs were not so predictable. The first game, they were.

The only run I disagreed with was sending Benson to the outside. Not a good idea. Benson doesn't have the speed to run outside.
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macbob
12 years ago

Agreed. I think 🇲🇲 called a much better game overall the 2nd game. His runs were not so predictable. The first game, they were.

The only run I disagreed with was sending Benson to the outside. Not a good idea. Benson doesn't have the speed to run outside.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Agree on the playcalling, Zombie. I'll be happy if MM continues to mix things up like he did in the Bears game.

Benson did OK on off-tackle and inside runs, but outside I'd like to see what Green can do.

Wow. We're in violent agreement. [aiee]
PackFanWithTwins
12 years ago
The best way to fix the running attack.

1. RUN THE BALL. Especially today with all the limitation put on practicing with pads and contact. In order to be a good running team, both the backs and the Oline need to have reps and get in sync. It seems to be even more important to run blocking to have full contact reps and live game reps.

2. Quit trying to run the outside stretch zone plays. We haven't been able to do it, well basically EVER. Our blockers always get beat to the edge by the defense. Probably because, if you are a defender, and you see the Oline slide step and start moving either left or right, you just have to run towards that side. There really are not any counter plays to protect against the defense just flooding the run side.

Even more than the defensive showing against da bears, I liked the job by Benson. He rushed hard and even better what his receiving. That was one of the knocks on him. He isn't a good receiver out of the backfield. Well, he did pretty well that game. And didn't look uncomfortable or ackward.

Keep Benson on the field, unless there is a 3rd and long.
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nerdmann
12 years ago

The best way to fix the running attack.

1. RUN THE BALL. Especially today with all the limitation put on practicing with pads and contact. In order to be a good running team, both the backs and the Oline need to have reps and get in sync. It seems to be even more important to run blocking to have full contact reps and live game reps.

2. Quit trying to run the outside stretch zone plays. We haven't been able to do it, well basically EVER. Our blockers always get beat to the edge by the defense. Probably because, if you are a defender, and you see the Oline slide step and start moving either left or right, you just have to run towards that side. There really are not any counter plays to protect against the defense just flooding the run side.

Even more than the defensive showing against da bears, I liked the job by Benson. He rushed hard and even better what his receiving. That was one of the knocks on him. He isn't a good receiver out of the backfield. Well, he did pretty well that game. And didn't look uncomfortable or ackward.

Keep Benson on the field, unless there is a 3rd and long.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



3: Run some SCREENS. Why do we have guys like Green and Saine if we're not gonna use their passcatching and open field running ability?

As for Benson he seems to have more gas when he's playing his former teams. Let's see him play that way week in and week out.
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Pack93z
12 years ago


Benson took a team friendly split contract.. Grant has been worked out a couple of times but not signed. One may draw the conclusion that Grant isn't willing to take a team friendly deal. That is spit balling on my part.. but I think money came into play here.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Side note for Zombie..

Grant turned down an earlier offer from the Lions.

In a move to bolster their running back position, the Lions have extended a contract offer to former Packers running back Ryan Grant, a league source confirmed.

Grant has yet to accept the Lions’ offer .



Apparently maybe there is a change of heart as he is in Detroit again looking today.


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zombieslayer
12 years ago
Thanks Pack93z.

I've been one of the few Grant supporters as I always thought he was underrated. Grant has always been quite good in the open field. I was hoping he'd be 100% for 2012. Wonder why he turned down the Lions. Weird.

Nerd - Benson isn't that bad at screens. Statistically, he doesn't do a lot of them but when I saw him play against da Bears, he looked OK. I too would like to see the other guys, but I'm all for doing screens with Benson as well.
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