Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Aurora, CO is just over an hour from where I lived in Fort Collins, CO. I'm in Green Bay now, but still ... feels like this hits closer to home, if that makes sense. Dark Knight Rises is a movie I've anticipated seeing for months and in fact will be driving nearly 2hrs to see it at (the closest to me) IMAX this weekemd. If Aurora was the closest IMAX, I'd have been there with a fellow co-worker because I wouldn't have had my daughter, and I wouldn't have had my Arizona business trip.

You can read the whole story here - link .
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Poor timing ...

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To be clear, the individual who posted the status/tweet, was NOT aware of the shootings.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Woman who avoided Toronoto shooting a month or so ago, is believed to have been killed.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-shooting-victims/index.html?hpt=hp_c2 
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4PackGirl
13 years ago
so very sad & tragic.
i cannot begin to fathom what those involved went through & will continue to go through.
dfosterf
13 years ago
I thought his tactics sucked. Med student?

He shot in the air, released a couple (cs equivalent?) cannisters, and THEN started shooting? (CS is tear gas)

Lucky he didn't actually know what the hell he was doing, or far more would have died, imo.

I'm sorry for the tragedy, but I'm just sayin'-- with the situation as he had it, he could have caused far more devastation than he actually did. He really could have. He might not know that, I'm just tellin' ya,



For starters, I got even money that many are alive because his gas-mask steamed up on him and he had no idea where he was firing at. They do that when you get hyper, bet he didn't know it.

The medical profession is in serious trouble if that is what they think they can produce for our consumption. even acknowledging he apparently quit. He had no scientific mind, notwithstanding his ability to confound authorities with a couple of coke bottles full of liquid and some monofilament strewn-about as of this writing. If something blows up, I'll adjust my philosophy on this matter. [palm]
Wade
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13 years ago
Various thoughts:

1. Sad, sad, sad.

2. In a country of 300+ million, there are going to be whack-jobs who do evil things from time to time. Law of averages or something like that. Doesn't make it less sad, merely a reality of living in a large population.

3. And with 24/7 "news"-seeking making every local tragedy into a national policy debate, I think we sometimes forget just how many different ways there are for 50 people to have something bad happen to them are.

4. Sad, sad, sad.

5. My understanding, Foster, is that he wasn't a medical student, but a PhD student. IMO, grad students (like the professors they are being trained to become) tend to be smart people who are less socially adept than others on average.

6. And grad students do have a higher-than-average incidence of mental illness. It used to amaze me how many of my fellow grad students/professors were under treatment for mental health issues ... until I became one of them. That doesn't make us all whack-jobs, but it does mean that I'm not surprised that this gunman turns out to have been a grad student.

7. Just sad.
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Wade
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13 years ago
Oh, yes, and I think the fact that his "tactics sucked", as our friend puts it, is actually a good sign.

As I said, in a country with 300 million people, you're going to get whack-jobs from time to time. I'd rather have my whack-jobs being poor in tactics than the alternative.


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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Here's a small tip for your shallow minded thinking. One person does not merit value over everything he did. This is the same idiotic thinking that people go "omg he shot someone and played video games? VIDEO GAMES MADE HIM DO IT!"

Another aspect to this that bothers me, some needle brain writer said this is the "Batman Massacre". WTF did Batman have to do with it? Not a single damn thing. But of course, we idiot American's have to attach everything with a flashy attention getting name.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Oh, yes, and I think the fact that his "tactics sucked", as our friend puts it, is actually a good sign.

As I said, in a country with 300 million people, you're going to get whack-jobs from time to time. I'd rather have my whack-jobs being poor in tactics than the alternative.

Originally Posted by: wade 



It's not too difficult to understand he shot in the air to scare people. Scared people tend to panic and react foolish, e.g. get up and run toward the exits. Instead of spraying bullets in say a 40ft wide area, he gets it narrowed down to say 10ft. Think about that for a second. I am not saying has good tactics or bad tactics, but firing a few rounds in the air was done for a reason and I feel it's pretty damn sad that one of our own former Marine's can't figure that out.


I'm not mad at anyone here for their comments, not at all. Opinions are great. What pisses me off is this gives the Government another damn excuse to "protect us" and now when going to movies, I fear we're going to have to have a NSA-like fucking process. Of course, the main that upsets me is people died, but the ensuing consequences of the Government trying to maintain our "freedom" with more damn "precautions" that WE as taxpayers have to pay for ... pisses me off.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
This is goes to my own personal ignorance here, but I thought when an emergency exit door was opened, it signaled an alarm to the location and police?

Edit, This might shock some who think this sort of thing is fairly 'new'.
"The number of mass murders in the U.S. has remained fairly steady, averaging about two dozen cases a year since the mid-1970s"
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