Dexter_Sinister
12 years ago

I don't really think this is a matter of people wanting to "get rid" of players. Simply looking at the numbers. Are we really going to keep 7 WRs this year? That is fine with me as long as they aren't putting another position at risk with too little depth - but that's impossible IMO. So, who carries the most trade value? Who could we afford to part with? Do we want to wait and just cut a player and get nothing in return?

Hey, if the coaches were behind this, the discussion could be about Jennings instead, and I would be fine with that too. If the staff evaluates the upcoming talent to be ready to step in and contribute at a high level, maybe that is a move that has to be considered. Do I want to get rid of Jennings? Jones? No. I like them all. This is strictly about numbers.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Like I said before, it doesn't matter at all to me if I like or dislike a guy. I want the best 5-6 guys in there. If that doesn't include my favorite guy, oh well.

As much as I like Jones, I would trade his hands for Gurley's. If he has the rest of it to go along.

Same with Driver.

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PackerTraxx
12 years ago

Like I said before, it doesn't matter at all to me if I like or dislike a guy. I want the best 5-6 guys in there. If that doesn't include my favorite guy, oh well.

As much as I like Jones, I would trade his hands for Gurley's. If he has the rest of it to go along.

Same with Driver.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



I like recievers with good/great hands also. Dropped passes are drive killers.
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Yerko
12 years ago
The more I look at Jones stats from last season, the less I want the Packers to trade the guy. With the limited amount of playing time Jones had last season, he did put up some pretty good numbers.

- His 3rd highest yards receiving (Top: 676 yards)
- His most TDs in a season (Next: 5 TDs two consecutive years and in both years he actually had 3 starts)
- Best YAC average of his career at 16.7 yards (Best on team: Jordy Nelson- 18.6 YAC average)


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gbguy20
12 years ago

Like I said before, it doesn't matter at all to me if I like or dislike a guy. I want the best 5-6 guys in there. If that doesn't include my favorite guy, oh well.

As much as I like Jones, I would trade his hands for Gurley's. If he has the rest of it to go along.

Same with Driver.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



You have a tiny sample size to rate gurley's hands, how the hell can you justify that?
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porky88
12 years ago
Randall Cobb needs to see more snaps on offense, which is one of the reasons why I thought Donald Driver shouldn't have return. Trading Jones opens that opportunity, so I understand it from that perspective.

However, Cobb is a second-year player and Driver’s skills are regressing. In addition, Jermichael Finley's durability is somewhat of a question mark. There's some pros in moving Jones, but also many cons. I have a ton of faith in Cobb, so I think I see more pros than cons. Jones is also better than Driver. That's what I don't get. Did they choose Driver over Jones? Perhaps the Packers are looking to depart with the wrong receiver.
Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Randall Cobb needs to see more snaps on offense, which is one of the reasons why I thought Donald Driver shouldn't have return. Trading Jones opens that opportunity, so I understand it from that perspective.

However, Cobb is a second-year player and Driver’s skills are regressing. In addition, Jermichael Finley's durability is somewhat of a question mark. There's some pros in moving Jones, but also many cons. I have a ton of faith in Cobb, so I think I see more pros than cons. Jones is also better than Driver. That's what I don't get. Did they choose Driver over Jones? Perhaps the Packers are looking to depart with the wrong receiver.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



Maybe they see a lot of potential in one of the younger guys and feel James Jones has peaked and want to get something for him before having to part ways with another WR? I dunno the answer, just brainstorming.
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nerdmann
12 years ago

Randall Cobb needs to see more snaps on offense, which is one of the reasons why I thought Donald Driver shouldn't have return. Trading Jones opens that opportunity, so I understand it from that perspective.

However, Cobb is a second-year player and Driver’s skills are regressing. In addition, Jermichael Finley's durability is somewhat of a question mark. There's some pros in moving Jones, but also many cons. I have a ton of faith in Cobb, so I think I see more pros than cons. Jones is also better than Driver. That's what I don't get. Did they choose Driver over Jones? Perhaps the Packers are looking to depart with the wrong receiver.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



Not to change the subject, but damn Cobb is explosive! He should easily pass Jones up as #3 this year. He'll at least challenge for #2 imo.

They're also saying Diondre Borel is looking as explosive. That, I will have to see for myself.
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porky88
12 years ago

Not to change the subject, but damn Cobb is explosive! He should easily pass Jones up as #3 this year. He'll at least challenge for #2 imo.

They're also saying Diondre Borel is looking as explosive. That, I will have to see for myself.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


After last year, Jordy Nelson is entrenched as this team's No. 2. I do agree that he should challenge James Jones. Perhaps the Packers are projecting Cobb’s ascension up the depth chart themselves; otherwise trading Jones doesn't make a ton of sense.
DoddPower
12 years ago

After last year, Jordy Nelson is entrenched as this team's No. 2. I do agree that he should challenge James Jones. Perhaps the Packers are projecting Cobb’s ascension up the depth chart themselves; otherwise trading Jones doesn't make a ton of sense.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



Yeah, if I had to choose which WR to keep, Jones or Driver, it would be Jones hands down. Not even close for me. But then again, I pretty much prefer Gurley or maybe even that Moss kid over Driver as well. They might not work out, but there's also a chance they could develop into a solid to great WR, sorta like Driver himself. Unfortunately, there's no hope of Driver getting any better. Hopefully we win a Super Bowl with him this year, though.
Zero2Cool
12 years ago

I don’t know how good my trade value is. I haven’t heard anything about trades or anything like that. I’m just here to play football. Whatever happens, happens. I don’t worry about all that stuff up top. If they came to me at my locker and said, ‘James, you’re going to the Cincinnati Bengals,’ I’d cry a little bit and then move on. You’ve got to do what you’ve got to do. It’s a business.

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