Trade James Jones for Steven Jackson?· Page 10

doddpower
Veteran Member

12 years ago

I understand there's not much the Packers could do to improve the offensive line run blocking at this point in the season, but as many others have said, that's a higher priority for me. Regardless of the reason, be it scheme, talent, execution, etc., if the offensive line blocked better, the running backs currently on the roster would do a sufficient job, at worst. With this blocking, I really don't think anything other than an elite talent at RB would make a substantial difference. I don't consider Blount, Jackson, or even D. Williams an elite talent. As a result, I can't see them being worth much money at all (or especially a nice draft pick).

If for some reason the Bucs were really interested in trading Blount for a 7th, of course I'd love that. I really can't imagine why in the hell the Bucs would trade him for that, but if so, the Packers should jump all over it.

wpr
Preferred Member

12 years ago

#92

I've been rethinking my position on trading for a RB, and I think I am all for it now. Getting a top tier RB in our backfield right now with Rodgers would help both the offense (to extend drives), and the defense (to keep them off the field as much as possible).

Ted, make the trade! I would prefer either of Blount or Jackson. Do it!!!! Trade a #3. Go for it. The one you didn't trade for Lynch got us Green. Don't make the same mistake twice.

Originally Posted by: play2win

Buffalo got a 4th from Seattle in 2011 and a 5th in 2012. That would be trading Lynch for House and Manning. Not Green.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

12 years ago

#93

Buffalo got a 4th from Seattle in 2011 and a 5th in 2012. That would be trading Lynch for House and Manning. Not Green.

Originally Posted by: wpr

It would have taken the Packers late 3rd round pick to better Seattle's early 4th rounder. And then the Packers late 4th round pick in 2012 to better Seattle's early 5th round pick.

beast
Select Member

12 years ago

#94

Looking back on it... it might of been nice having Lynch instead of Green. Though that's the short term... long run it could be different. But Lynch hopefully would of been able to do more and so teams could focus so much on the passing game making it even better.

It would have taken the Packers late 3rd round pick to better Seattle's early 4th rounder. And then the Packers late 4th round pick in 2012 to better Seattle's early 5th round pick.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

It would have taken the Packers late 3rd round pick to better Seattle's early 4th rounder. And then the Packers late 4th round pick in 2012 to better Seattle's early 5th round pick.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

It wasn't an early 4th round pick... it was the 25th pick in the 4th round.
And the 5th round pick was the 12th pick in the round.

So I'd say late 4th and mid 5th.

So according to the "Value-Chart" which is outdated and never was totally correct though two combined would be about "88" points or high 4th round pick.

So Green's 3rd round pick by it's self should of more than covered it... even if they threw their 7th round pick with Lynch.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

Buffalo got a 4th from Seattle in 2011 and a 5th in 2012. That would be trading Lynch for House and Manning. Not Green.

Originally Posted by: wpr

Those picks were lower than the Ones Seahawks offered, also House was picked with a compensatory spot... can't trade compensatory picks... can't trade Compensatory pick.

Plus Lynch and Green are both RBs so it's apples to apples, and the vales were pretty close, from Green draft pick spot to Lynch traded value he got the Bills.

wpr
Preferred Member

12 years ago

#95

It would have taken the Packers late 3rd round pick to better Seattle's early 4th rounder. And then the Packers late 4th round pick in 2012 to better Seattle's early 5th round pick.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Just saying that they got a 4th and 5th for Lynch and then who GB selected in those rounds.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

12 years ago

#96

It wasn't an early 4th round pick... it was the 25th pick in the 4th round.
And the 5th round pick was the 12th pick in the round.

Originally Posted by: beast

You sure think you're smart with that hindsight in your back pocket huh lol. This isn't your fault, its mine. Okay, fixing my error that I assumed others were following along with, AT THE TIME OF THE TRADE, the Packers were presumed to be selecting later in the round than Seahawks, who btw, played so poorly their coach was fired.

At the time of the trade.
Seahawks 2 - 2
Packers 3 - 1

So, what the picks ACTUALLY were, is not relevant as at the time, no one knew. Thus, the perception was, the Packers would be selecting LATER in each round than the Seahawks, meaning the Bills would want a perceived Packers late 3rd to beat out the Seahawks early 4th.

I believe 2010 was the year the Seahawks were 7 - 9 and won a playoff game (that I predicted they would btw) that actually put them so late in each round.

I hope I've explained myself and my pea brain thinking much better than I did before. 😊

play2win
Senior Member

12 years ago

#97

All I'm saying is: make the freaking trade Ted! ;-)

I think a 3rd is worth what he would now add to the team. Figure, we trade for him tomorrow. We play both Starks and Green Sunday v. AZ, then Jackson has two solid weeks to get up to speed with our O.

Imagine how excited the rest of this team would be adding another talent like that to our backfield. Without the trade, we seem pretty thin at RB. I think a move like that would add to our chances at a Super Bowl win. I think not making this trade could have the inverse effect.

beast
Select Member

12 years ago

#98

So, what the picks ACTUALLY were, is not relevant as at the time, no one knew. Thus, the perception was, the Packers would be selecting LATER in each round than the Seahawks, meaning the Bills would want a perceived Packers late 3rd to beat out the Seahawks early 4th.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Good point. It was early in the year.

Originally Posted by: play2win

Looking back on it I think Lynch might of been good. But Jackson is 29 and seems like RBs drop off around 30... so I don't know... also depend on what are the Rams asking for in return and what is Jackson looking for to sign a 3 year or so deal...

zombieslayer
Registered

12 years ago

#99

But Jackson is 29 and seems like RBs drop off around 30...

Originally Posted by: beast

How many RBs at 30 are in the NFL who are active and actually decent? Anyone have that list? I'm assuming it's very short. It's about as long as a Vikings fan is happy.

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