What are our SS options if Collins is out?· Page 3

dhazer
Veteran Member

13 years ago

What if Nick decides to play and the Packers don't want him to. Would they trade him and get something or cut him and get nothing? What might they get if they trade him?

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx

Well everyone knows if your a well liked Packer and you want to come back and Ted Thompson and MM don't want you they will trade you off to some team you don't want to go to :)

I just had to throw in my 2 cents, it's been awhile and after all it is that time of year for me to start my hating on Ted Thompson again.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

play2win
Senior Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#22

Oh I completely agree. In 2010, I thought Peprah's best attribute was his sure tackling, especially his first few games. I remember some beautiful solid form tackling. For whatever reason that I certainly can't explain, he was pretty much horrible in every way last season, in addition to most the secondary. Super Bowl hangover? Slight loss of that "drive" or "hunger" after becoming the champs? I have no idea, but it was horrifying to watch.

Originally Posted by: doddpower

Totally agree. Weird to see, and horrifying. I think it was a combo of what you mentioned, and zero pass rush.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#23

Well everyone knows if your a well liked Packer and you want to come back and Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy don't want you they will trade you off to some team you don't want to go to :)

Originally Posted by: dhazer

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#24

If Nick Collins wants to play and the Packers don't want him to, I don't think there is much Nick Collins can do. The Packers would be less than inclined to trade him because it would defeat their reasoning for not wanting him to play. The Packers would love to have a 100% Nick Collins on the field, no question. They sure as hell don't want to see Nick Collins in another uniform, it's not like he's debated retirement for the last six years publicly.

PackerTraxx
Senior Member

13 years ago

#25

On that basis the only option is to pay him and not play him.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#26

On that basis the only option is to pay him and not play him.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx

Couldn't they just put him on Injured Reserve or Reserve/Retired list or something? Actually, I think the NFLPA would throw a fit.

earthquake
Member

13 years ago

#27

Couldn't they just put him on Injured Reserve or Reserve/Retired list or something? Actually, I think the NFLPA would throw a fit.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Depending on how his contract is structured they would still likely be paying him something on IR, and no I don't think they can't put him on Reserve/Retired without his consent.

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PackerTraxx
Senior Member

13 years ago

#28

Hence pay him or cut him.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#29

Depending on how his contract is structured they would still likely be paying him something on IR, and no I don't think they can't put him on Reserve/Retired without his consent.

Originally Posted by: earthquake

I don't think they had Brett Favre's consent, lol.

play2win
Senior Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#30

I'm really hoping the guy can come back and play, without any further risk. Given the amount of time this is taking, you would think Collins' doctors might have given him a green light. If the light was red, the Packers team physicians would really have nothing further to discuss. Then again, maybe they just need a week to figure out what to do with his retirement. It would be great if he were cleared to play and kept the Green & Gold 36.

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