Pack93z
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14 years ago
More on it from Rodgers..


Rodgers makes pitch for Jones, Tauscher 
Jul 26, 2011 -- 10:22pm

SHEBOYGAN FALLS – Aaron Rodgers made it clear that he isn’t paid by the Green Bay Packers to be the general manager.

“Thankfully I’m not paid to do that job,” the Packers quarterback told Steve “The Homer” True and Mitch “Thunder” Nelles in an interview on ESPNMilwaukee and ESPNMadison Tuesday afternoon. “There’s obviously some tough decisions to be made.”

Then Rodgers proceeded to make it crystal clear what decisions he would make if he indeed held that job: Free-agent wide receiver James Jones would be re-signed, and veteran right tackle Mark Tauscher, a potential salary-cap casualty, would be back as a reserve.

"James is extremely talented and he's a guy that I think we have to bring back without a doubt," Rodgers said. "He should be priority No. 1. And I mean that with all my heart. He really should be priority No. 1. We don't win the Super Bowl without him. And we need him."

In 65 career games and 18 starts (including playoffs), Jones has caught 166 passes for 2,305 yards and 16 touchdowns. Last season was his most productive, with 50 catches for 679 yards and five touchdowns in 16 regular-season games and 11 catches for 144 yards and two touchdowns in the Packers’ four postseason games, including Super Bowl XLV.

But he also dropped what may have been four long touchdowns during the season: a potential 72-yard touchdown in the Packers’ 9-0 win over the New York Jets on Oct. 31; a possible 29-yard touchdown in the Packers’ 45-17 victory over the New York Giants on Dec. 26; a likely 63-yard touchdown pass from Rodgers the Packers’ 21-16 NFC Wild Card victory at Philadelphia; and a potential 75-yard touchdown in the Packers’ victory over Pittsburgh in Super Bowl XLV.

Asked about those dropped passes, Rodgers replied, "You know what? Physical mistakes are going to happen. Yeah, it's frustrating, but James made a ton of big plays for us [last] season and I think his best football is in front of him. Without a doubt, in my opinion, he’s Priority No. 1. But I’m not making those decisions. So there you go.

“I think he’s as talented a player as we’ve got on the team, and I think his best football is in front of him. And I think he’s a valuable asset that we don’t want to get rid of.”

As for Tauscher, who missed all but four games last season with a shoulder injury suffered on Oct. 3, Rodgers acknowledged that second-year tackle Bryan Bulaga earned the starting job but said Tauscher’s experience and leadership would be missed if he’s released to save more than $4 million in salary-cap space.

“I’m hopeful that Mark will be back with us, but I realize it’s a business, and I think he does as well,” Rodgers said. “I’m really hoping that he’s still with us. I don’t know what I’d do without that big guy in the locker room. He makes me feel better about myself every day. He’s an overrated backgammon and cribbage player, but he’s a hell of a (football) player, too. I hope we bring him back.”


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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

James is extremely talented and he's a guy that I think we have to bring back without a doubt, He should be priority No. 1. And I mean that with all my heart. He really should be priority No. 1. We don't win the Super Bowl without him. And we need him.

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He's the QB, of course he's going to say this. He says this same thing about all of the other 52 guys on the team.
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14 years ago

Well there really isn't any comparison between Jennings and Jones at this point. Jennings drop was an anomaly while Jones has dropped something like 30 passes while in GB. Off the top of my head last year I believe Jones dropped probable TDs in games vs NYJ, Dallas, NYG, PHI, PIT.

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So that absolves Jennings of his drop in a tight game in which that was the difference (score wise) at the end as played out?

I am not trying to compare them.. but it isn't like Jones was the only one dropping balls last season. That is my point, early in the season it seemed like it was a team effort to drop balls on Rodgers.

IMO, Jones is a very athletic and versatile receiver that can play well in any position within the offense and has built chemistry with Rodgers already. I think that value outweighs his drops to date.. that said he certainly need to clean that aspect of his game up.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
dfosterf
14 years ago
It has been said by several national media outlets that re-signing Jones should be either a number 1 priority or close to it.

Situationally, I don't see it. Like I said, I love the lad and want him back, but WR depth isn't an issue in GB for the forseeable future imo.

I still think he is worth a disgustingly painful contract. I think he's the real deal.

Stevetarded
14 years ago

So that absolves Jennings of his drop in a tight game in which that was the difference (score wise) at the end as played out?

I am not trying to compare them.. but it isn't like Jones was the only one dropping balls last season. That is my point, early in the season it seemed like it was a team effort to drop balls on Rodgers.

IMO, Jones is a very athletic and versatile receiver that can play well in any position within the offense and has built chemistry with Rodgers already. I think that value outweighs his drops to date.. that said he certainly need to clean that aspect of his game up.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 




Yes Greg Jennings is absolved of his 1 big drop because of his overall production especially as compared to Jones dropping multiple TDs while being nowhere near Jennings in production. Nobody harps on Jennings because he makes significantly more big plays than Jones while dropping significantly less TDs.

His value only outweighs his drops as long as his salary is reasonable for a possible #3 WR. Drops like that are unacceptable for someone proposing that they should be getting "starter money".
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Per the article, it appears James Jones had four possible TD catches that he failed to complete. Result, Packers won all four games.

In what I feel was the biggest drop of the year, Greg Jennings against the Lions, the Packers lost the game.


Yet, James Jones is nailed to a cross, lol.


I'll say it again, Jarrett Bush is hoping James Jones returns ... otherwise the lynching will be directed towards him once again.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

It has been said by several national media outlets that re-signing Jones should be either a number 1 priority or close to it.

Situationally, I don't see it. Like I said, I love the lad and want him back, but WR depth isn't an issue in GB for the forseeable future imo.

I still think he is worth a disgustingly painful contract. I think he's the real deal.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



If James Jones leaves and Donald Driver declines ... WR is a big concern, unless you think Greg Jennings, Brett Swain, Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb are the answer. I would go along with that, if, and only if Jermichael Finley is retained and stays healthy.
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14 years ago

Yes Greg Jennings is absolved of his 1 big drop because of his overall production especially as compared to Jones dropping multiple TDs while being nowhere near Jennings in production. Nobody harps on Jennings because he makes significantly more big plays than Jones while dropping significantly less TDs.

Originally Posted by: Stevetarded 



Sigh.. and this has always been the case correct? You are getting hung up on my example.. but it is okay. Jennings has had more than an occasional drop over his career here in Green Bay.. and has grown past it.

Example.



Packers wide receiver has 5 so far but doesn't see trend 

By Tom Silverstein of the Journal Sentinel

Dec. 9, 2009

Green Bay — Packers wide receiver Greg Jennings said he does not have a drop problem.

He just happened to have one on Monday night.

"The slant, just dropped it, didn't go down with it," Jennings said Wednesday. "And the 'puma' (route), on the sideline, I couldn't even see it. Honest, I just dropped it, lost it in the lights. It kind of hit me at the last minute. It happens, it's part of the game, but you've still got to make plays."

The two drops were Jennings' first since the Tampa Bay game and gave him five for the season, equal to the number teammate and Packers leading receiver Donald Driver has this season. It might have been shocking for some to see Jennings drop a pair in front of a national television audience against the Baltimore Ravens, but to him it was not a warning sign.

He said there is no issue.

"No, no, I'm not concerned about that, not at all," Jennings said. "I'm nowhere close to being concerned it. Not sounding cocky about it, but drops are a part of the game. What happened to me on (Monday), the slant, totally me, totally like 100 percent, that is just uncalled for. I can't control the lights."

Overall, Jennings has not been as productive as he was a year ago when he led the Packers in all three top receiving categories with 80 receptions for 1,292 yards and nine touchdowns. This year, Jennings has 53 catches for 799 yards and three touchdowns, which puts him on pace to finish with 71/1,065/4.

There's no question that's a significant drop-off from last year.

The way he looks at it, defenses are paying more attention to him, and others on the team are bearing the fruit of the double-teams he and Driver receive. Perhaps the biggest difference between this year and last are the 34 catches tight end Jermichael Finley has.

"There's things that 'Drive' does that opens everything up for everybody else, there's things that I do that open it up, and what Jermichael does opens everything up just as much as everything else," Jennings said. "So what he's able to do, split out on a linebacker, on a safety, with his athletic ability, it's a mismatch every time."

One puzzling part of the offense is that Jennings rarely gets used in the slot, where a receiver has more freedom to beat a defender because he can't be bumped at the line of scrimmage and there's more open field to work with. Driver gets that assignment whenever he's on the field.

Jennings also doesn't get a lot of assignments as the lone receiver to one side in a three-receiver set. In most cases, that receiver gets a cornerback who is playing soft zone because he doesn't have safety help with all the attention being paid to the other side of the field.

Jennings said if the Packers weren't winning, he might be more vocal about wanting the ball more, but he said he is not going to disrupt a good thing. As it is, he and Driver have been targeted by quarterback Aaron Rodgers almost exactly the same number of times: Jennings, 89 times; Driver, 88 times.

"When we're playing the way we're playing, we're winning, you're going to get nothing but smiles," Jennings said. "Now, if it were reversed, then maybe. But I'm not trying to mess with anything."



At the end of the day, my point is if you are going to crush one player for a clutch drop.. then hold them all accountable for it.

That is all.. Jones is a productive player overall. And to say that one player was being thrown away from in this offense in a small sample size isn't prudent IMO.. from game to game they singled out matchups and attacked them across the season. Ebb and flow of the offense verse the defense and weakness against the coverage.. IMO.. the beauty of the offense.
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Pack93z
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14 years ago
Another example that it wasn't just a Jones problem last season.. straight from Jennings himself.

If Jennings can accept the responsibility why should we the fans deflect it.. always intrigues me why we do that.


http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20101212/PKR01/101212052/Green-Bay-Packers-WR-Greg-Jennings-key-pass-Dropped- 

DETROIT – In a locker-room interview last week, Greg Jennings wanted no part of a question about why he and the rest of the Green Bay Packers’ receivers had overcome their early-season penchant for dropping balls.

He feared a jinx.

On Sunday after the Packers’ 7-3 loss to the Detroit Lions at Ford Field, where Jennings’ dropped a perfectly thrown deep ball from Aaron Rodgers that popped into the hands of Detroit safety Amari Spievey for an interception, Jennings looked the questioner in the eye said: “See, see, see, see.”

The play had touchdown written all over it. On second-and-3 from his own 27-yard line in the first quarter, Rodgers used a play-fake to momentarily freeze Spievey, the Lions’ rookie. Jennings had a step on him down the field and Rodgers unloaded. Jennings reached up with two hands, but the ball slipped through and appeared to hit him in the helmet, ricocheting back to Spievey.

Jennings made no excuses.

“Dropped it; straight dropped it,” Jennings said. “Disappointing, very disappointing.”


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Another example that is wasn't just a Jones problem last season.. straight from Jennings himself.

If Jennings can accept the responsibility why should we the fans deflect it.. always intrigues me why we do that.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Because Greg Jennings has a better smile than James Jones. That's what the fans care about.


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