"Abolishing unions". I keep hearing that. It ONLY affects the public sector. The unions still can get plenty of money from the private sector.

Same with the "He's attacking the middle class!" Such biased speach should be seen for what it is.

I DO have an easy solution for all those public workers who feel they are getting SOOOO badly shafted.
There's no law that says you have to keep your public job. If it's such a bad deal, you CAN quit you know, and go and look for a job in the private sector.
Of course, even with the cuts, the public workers know just how sweet a deal they still have, and won't quit because of the cuts.
Lets see just how many years you would have to work to get the wage, benefits and pension that you are/will get.
That's right.....chances sre you could work 40 years and not get what you are still going to get in the jobs you currently have.
When times are tough, you have to make cuts, or just keep spiraling deeper into debt. Is that what these people really want?
The ones that are protesting the cuts are the same people that cry about "global warming" and how if we don't do something now, future generations will suffer. What about the debt piling up for the future generations of Wisconsinites??? Yeah.....when it actually has to come out of THEIR pockets, their attitude changes.
And again, fact is, it's not like Walker is asking these people to work for peanuts.
Finally we have someone in office with the balls to actually try to do something about the debt Wisconsin is piling up, and the usual suspects want to kill the guy.
And people wonder why no one wants to actually go against the "same old same old" in politics. Just try it, and you will be called "Adolph Hitler".

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Sorry Cheesey but you're wrong, the unions agreed to the cuts long ago, Walker is trying to eliminate their ability to collectively bargain, it has absolutely zero to do with balancing the budget.
It's just that simple. It's the haves trying to take more from the have-nots.

Scott Walker is a lap dog doing the dirty work for his corporate masters plain and simple, try researching the truth behind the rhetoric you've been inundated with from Fox News. If you tell a lie long enough people will begin to believe it's the truth. Propaganda pure & simple. It's an art form that Karl Rove mastered long ago.

I remember driving back to Green Bay during the 2006 election and seeing all of the "Sportsman for Bush" signs stuck in the lawns of the rubes. 5 minutes spent on the internet could have educated the good folks of Wisconsin on Bushes environmental record while he was Governor of Texas. It was abysmal! These people care nothing about the environment or you.

Look into the process of removing Natural Gas and oil called Fracking (watch Gasland, an incredibly sad and scary documentary about the subject), a Major part of the Bush era energy policy. It's truly frightening and disgusting what it causes. All for the almighty dollar, much like the union busting that is currently going on in Wisconsin & other northern states.

Take a little time, educate yourself about what people like Walker and his ilk really consider to be important and you might come away holding them accountable for the state our once great country is in. (Turkey is ahead of the USA in infant mortality, that makes me want to puke as it should you and that's only one tiny example).

But it's so much easier to toe the party line than look in to what's really going on out there. I'm a little tired of the "Keep 'em dumb & entertained while we steal everything we can" political process we currently live under. As soon as the majority figures it out things might just change. I just hope it doesn't take bread lines again to wake us all up.

And, no offense, CLIMATE CHANGE, not "global warming" is a subject you know less than nothing about so stop using it in arguments.

Scott Walker has NO balls, otherwise he'd govern, not follow instructions.

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Cheesey, becuase I love you like a brother, for the last time: Lay off the Fox news. That shit warps your brain, man. I need to get my own brother deprogrammed one of these days too.

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His quote



The statement from Alan was from the past on how Walker gave money back

Mussy asked for evidence by saying .. and I provided it

As far as abolishing unions

I could care less when he said it or if he said it, saw a question about it, reseasrched and found AN ANSWER from December and posted it..

but looking more into it, according to this site

http://www.farleftside.com/ 




I am not on either side of this part, just trying to find articles to help

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/117798133.html 


If I am paying for the teachers salaries, shouldnt there be a system in place to say if they get a raise or not?

Or should I just take for granted a union rep will make the right call

No offense longtime, I appreciate the link about Walker not campaigning on union busting, I was just trying to point out that your original link was post election, that's all.

As far as having a say in public employees compensation goes, I saw an interesting reply on a political blog that went something like this:

2011 - people making $30,000 a year complaining about people who make $40,000 a year

2012 - people making $20,000 a year complaining about people who make $30,000 a year

2013 - people making $10,000 a year complaining about people who make $20,000 a year

you get the gist. It's a bit of an over-simplification of the issue but my point is, in an earlier post I mentioned that 400 Individuals control more wealth than 55% of families in this country, Exxon and other major corporations pay NO income tax and receive massive subsidies from the government, the average CEO makes close to 300 times what the average employee makes yet they've somehow convinced the general public that teachers pensions and right to collectively bargain is bankrupting our states.

IT IS A LIE!

And they are laughing all the way to the bank.

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Don't believe a damn thing that comes out of that fat fuck's mouth. He's a parasite.

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Read my post on him previous page at end of my post

Cheesy,

It's not just about current employees, it's the inconsistencies and what could still be to come. As longtime pointed out for me, he said in his campaign he wants to balance the budget - so where did this union busting thing come from? If unions are in fact the end all of budget balancing, then why are the firefighters/cops' unions still in tact? Because they supported him in 2010? Nah, this is all a non-negotiable budget saving maneuver, right!

We're in a BUDGET CRISIS - OK, so then everyone should chip in, right? Nope, we'll just give tax breaks to out-of-state businesses paid for by cuts to in-state public education and municipalities. Well then tax revenue from the unprecedented migration of business he promises sure as shit better account for the reduced revenue due to these business tax breaks and restriction on property tax increases. I'm also waiting for the NET (meaning accounting for the jobs lost with the 3.6 bil in cuts) increase in 250k jobs in WI - and these better be bon-a-fide full time positions instead of minimum wage seasonal employment bullshit positions that he can use to pad meaningless campaign statistics.

WI has always been a model for it's protection of natural resources. So lets cut funding to recycling, lift the mandate on recycling for communities, soften phosphorous standards and wetland regulations (because those are pesky inconveniences for our new buddies - incoming business), and now there is ambiguous talk about him wanting to sell public lands. What does that entail? Maybe selling off a little 5 acre park in Mukwonago, or maybe we'll plow down the Northern Highlands State Forest, or how about we privatize all of the Chippewa Flowage! Yeah, yeah, it was nice having 15,000 acres of wilderness land for recreation in Sawyer County - but wouldn't a whole shit ton of businesses and condos make it such a nicer place to vacation to?!?

If budget balancing = hand select unions to bust and limit revenue through property tax caps and business tax breaks at the expense of in-state services, affordable public education for middle/lower class, then who knows what the hell is next for Scott FitzWalkerChristieRoveGingrich

I don't have a lot of credibility as is, and posting something from comedy central to support an argument probably squelches what little I have left, but this 5 min video does sort of spin off of your point - or at least shows some hypocrisy in perspectives of contracts, 50k/year vs. 250k/ year salaries, and capping pay and benefits.

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