Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I just jizzed.

By the way, I am not condoning breaking the law. Just as I don't feel sorry for a college student who gets a ticket for underage drinking or smoking pot, I don't feel sorry for someone who gets caught having underage sex. You know the law; if you choose to take the risk of breaking it, that's on you.

However, I do believe the laws are unjust and need to be changed; and furthermore, I believe they will be. I believe that eventually, there will be successful legal challenges to a lot of the laws currently on the books. I'd love to see some mature teenagers who are in love with people who happen to be over the age of 18 successfully sue for the right to choose whom they want to sleep with. One of the most mature, trustworthy people I know is 17; she's so poised and self-assured that people almost always assume she's in her mid-20s (at least) when they first meet her. If the shit hit the fan, I'd put far more trust in her than most people I know who are twice her age.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
I know for a fact, Wisconsin does NOT have Statutory Rape, they deem those cases as Sexual Assault. And if you're a 17 yr old male and have consensual intercourse with your 15 yr old girlfriend (who documented it heavily that she wanted it even though you failed in resisting), you will be charged with a 4th degree sexual assault and either sit 9 months in jail, or serve 2 years probation.
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Cheesey
14 years ago
NO teens are mature enough to handle it. That's fact.
Theyn are horny, and that is what motivates them.
Putting "Tab A" into "Slot B" is all they are after.
Again, they are not taught self control, or that there are consequences for your actions.
I was a horny teen, yet NEVER had ANY sexual contact with another person till i was over 18. Was it hard at times? Yes.
SELF CONTROL and MORALS.
That's what is missing in today's America.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
What the fuck do morals have to do with it? Show me a single verse in the Bible that indicates it's somehow "immoral" to have sex under the age of 18. You can't find it, because it's not there. That idea is nothing more than your own personal preference, pure and simple. So what you're telling me is that a couple who gets married at 16 is immoral? My grandparents were immoral for having my father when they were 17? Was the mother of Jesus immoral for letting God impregnate her at 14?

Think before you spout off judgmental crap like this. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's immoral.

By the way, if humans aren't supposed to have sex until they're 18, then God is a fucking moron for causing them to go into puberty between the ages of 12 and 14.

Did you know that the safest time for a woman to become pregnant -- both for her and the child -- is between the ages of 16 and 22? Clearly God has no idea what he's doing, since he made it immoral to produce a healthy child.

I don't care if you think sex under the age of 18 is wrong -- everyone is entitled to his own opinion -- but to make some sort of sweeping moral judgment as though you're speaking for God is way out of line. Acknowledge it's your own personal bias/preference, and while I won't agree with it, I won't have a problem with it. Or show me a verse in the Bible that supports your stance, and I'll acknowledge my folly and change my opinion.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

Yep.. just a few have laws on the books...

"pack93z" wrote:



I was referring specifically to states that have ages of consent at 18 (Wisconsin is one of six such states). I realize in looking back at my post I wasn't specific about that.
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DakotaT
14 years ago
I think a lot of the accepted "morality" on this issue comes from a group of men in Rome who's sole agenda was to suppress education and the rights of women.

It was easy pickins with the women in the age group of 16 to 22, but sexual education is taught by the milfs.

Physically, women should be having their children when they are young, but emotionally they aren't ready for the most part and should be in college.

Just like driving drunk, I reserve judgment on this issue, for I would be a hypocrite.

My question with the story is how did charges come about? Was it her parents that reported it to the DA, and if so and the girl loved the guy, then her suicide is on the heads of her parents.
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Pack93z
14 years ago
If one is looking just at the science of it all, sure one could make an argument for young adults, those that are still developing to reproduce.

But the would be irresponsible, IMO, since it ignores the societal environment of this country. A young person, under 18, generally lack the means to effectively raise a child and support a family. Protect them from themselves and give them a chance to maturely plan their life a bit, a 16 years old, let alone a 14 year old have no idea of where they want to go in this thing called life.

It also ignores the real issue. full grown adults preying on the youth for a quick roll in the hay. There comes the rub, where do you drawn the line to define an adult.. in most circumstances that is 18. Hence the age structure, however the states with a relative age clause have it more correct IMO. If they are within say 4 years of each other, I think little of it.. say a 17 year old hooking up with a 21 year old. Just better not be my daughter. ;)

I sorry, if you are a 30 year drone.. you have no business praying on a young adult under 18.

Why can't we argue the drinking age.. that is easy. 😉
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Rockmolder
14 years ago

Why can't we argue the drinking age.. that is easy. ;)

"pack93z" wrote:



Exactly.

I laugh at you Yanks and your drinking age.
DakotaT
14 years ago

It also ignores the real issue. full grown adults preying on the youth for a quick roll in the hay. There comes the rub, where do you drawn the line to define an adult.. in most circumstances that is 18. Hence the age structure, however the states with a relative age clause have it more correct IMO. If they are within say 4 years of each other, I think little of it.. say a 17 year old hooking up with a 21 year old. Just better not be my daughter. ;)

I sorry, if you are a 30 year drone.. you have no business praying on a young adult under 18.

"pack93z" wrote:



How did we get to the creepy 30 year old combing the high schools? Why should an 18 year old guy be charged with raping his younger girlfriend? His girlfriend is probably more mature than he is. I'm with Non on this issue but not with the Chmura issue.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
30 year old? I thought the male was 18? How do we a 30 year old in this discussion?
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