cheeseheads123
14 years ago
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81bf587f/article/nfl-reviews-hit-by-packers-collins-despite-williams-objections?module=HP_headlines 

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Green Bay Packers safety Nick Collins could face additional discipline from the NFL after a helmet-to-helmet hit on Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Roy Williams.

A league spokesman says the play is under review. The NFL is cracking down on illegal hits, and players who violate the rules are subject to increased fines or even suspensions.

Collins went helmet-to-helmet with Williams after an incompletion in the third quarter of the Packers' 45-7 victory over the Cowboys Sunday night. Collins was flagged for unnecessary roughness.

Williams said after the game that he didn't think Collins should be punished for the hit.

I wonder if the Collins incident earlier in the season will have any affect on this decision.
Chutzpah515
14 years ago
Collins deserves the worst fine possible. The hit was intentional and the new rule has been in place for week. The best part was he celebrated after making the hit.
14 years ago

Collins deserves the worst fine possible. The hit was intentional and the new rule has been in place for week. The best part was he celebrated after making the hit.

"Chutzpah515" wrote:



Really? He celebrated?

[youtube]szGBAz-qk8g[/youtube]

:crazy:
Tezzy
14 years ago

Collins deserves the worst fine possible. The hit was intentional and the new rule has been in place for week. The best part was he celebrated after making the hit.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



Really? He celebrated?

[youtube]szGBAz-qk8g[/youtube]

:crazy:

"Chutzpah515" wrote:



Showing compassion and concern for a player after a hit is the worst dance I have ever seen Collins come up with. Weak sauce.
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Mckennj3
14 years ago
I think he mistaked Williams fist pumps for Collins.
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dfosterf
14 years ago
I don't know if anyone has been paying close attention to the escalation in the amounts from "week one" to "week two"...since the "pronouncement" from on-high--

...Coupled with (it seemed to me) the increasing "ticky-tack" b.s. nature of several of those "determinations" by the league/commish/bunch of pointy-headed REMF <----- (if you don't know what that is, move on-unimportant-we also have acronym Nazi's in addition to our grammar Nazi's :tongue3: ) parlimentarian lawyer-types.

I would not be surprised AT ALL if Colllins caught the first suspension.

It would figure, too---

That will get me going on wonderlic scores and stuff, so I'll reserve comment on that. :tongue3:
14 years ago
Classy move on Roy Williams part, asking Godell not to fine Collins.

I have seen that play numerous times, and Williams didn't return to his vertical base quick enough and kept low for posession. Helmet to helmet is inevitable but you could see that he didn't intend to flatten him.
 
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azrunning
14 years ago
I don't think the helmet to helmet was intentional at all. I think he was trying to put a hit with his left shoulder into the back of the receiver. Problem is that the helmets lined up and made contact too.

Definitely isn't suspension worthy. (fingers crossed)
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Tezzy
14 years ago
Suspension here but not for James Harrison would make no sense, and I find most of what Goodell does for the NFL fairly sensible, so I would be extremely surprised of a suspension.
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Pack93z
14 years ago
The NFL and fans have to realize just how hard it is to judge where a players actions are going to take them at the point of impact in a play like that.

Defenders are taught to rap the receiver hard in an effort to break up the catch.. and the best place to drill them is in the shoulder area and raking the arms... these types of hits are going to happen when you have athletes like this playing full tilt.

Collins immediately after impact realized that he hit him high and turned to the attention of Williams and his well being. IMO, he wasn't aiming for the head in the shot.. but regardless hit him there.

If they are going to fine one, they have to fine him.. even though I don't think it was his intent.

BTW.. if the NFL is reviewing the footage.. Rodgers got drilled in the face mask early without a flag.. if one is going to draw a fine.. that one should as well.

IMO, these types of hits are going to happen and have happened for years.. if they want to stop these hits, then change the helmets and their makeup either making them more impact resistant (see the new Jackson helmet in Philly) or remove the face masks and they will cease almost immediately. Players might not be camera worthy for endorsements going forward, but the hit will stop because defenders will kock themselves out of competition in short order.
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