What would you consider as a successful season?· Page 2

K_Buz
Member

14 years ago

I do agree, however. With the offensive cast we have...Rodgers, Driver, Jennings, Jackson (to some extent) if our head coach has some imagination and uses our weapons we still have a class A offense.

On defense the loss of Matthews hurts, but his injury is one that he will recover from. I don't expect him to be out very long. With Matthews still in the picture I would say that this team should easily make the playoffs. Get some guys healthy, Harris/Bigby, then with the experience that the backups are getting, we could easily make a run at the Super Bowl. Think about the competition in the NFC. Who can you say is honestly better on paper than the Packers?

This is why I expect the Packers in the Super Bowl.

dfosterf
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#12

I will not publicly state that anyone that thinks that injuries are no excuse is an idiot...

Let's call injuries a "plausible explanation for decreased performance" of a team as a whole, and those that cling to the concept that "injuries are no excuse" are merely Pavlovian dogs that happen to also be "logicically-challenged".

I'm feeling PC :headwall:

DakotaT
Select Member

14 years ago

#13

I think we weather this storm, finish 11-5, win the division, and lose in the NFC championship game because McCarthey went conservative.

Let's compare Barnett and Bishop - Bishop is definitely better thumping at the line of scrimmage, but what can't be overlooked is Barnett's superior range. It's Capers job to adjust the defense.

We still have a lot of talent, but I would encouraga a shakeup on the offensive line. Bench Clifton, let Bulaga play LT and Lang at right and run the fuckin ball. Tauscher and Clifton can sit there on the bench as backups if the young guys can't handle the job. I think they can.

VinceLambeauStarr
Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

#14

"dfosterf" wrote:

"The pussyfication of the devlidog"

:D

Zero2Cool is my captain.

VinceLambeauStarr
Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

#15

"K_Buz" wrote:

I had to applaud that, not because it has any merit, but because it's much needed optimism.

Zero2Cool is my captain.

dfosterf
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#16

"DakotaT" wrote:

I'm gonna +1 ya for that, but I personally want Colledge out of there also.
That brings me to the question of --- Do I want Tausch in there at RT and Lang at LG????

I think I might. I'm just not sure if Tausch is as done as I think he is.

K_Buz
Member

14 years ago

#17

I see I am in a loosing battle and I'm in the minority so I will rest my case.

Like I said, you loose Rodgers yeah, my expectations will change. And I was wrong about saying injuries are no excuse. If you have a whole team of backups out there, yeah, expectations change. But I don't think we have reached that point.

The team as of right now is capable of winning games.

Stevetarded
Registered

14 years ago

#18

I get the whole "injuries happen to everyone" thing and how you need to expect some guys to have to step up throughout the year and fill in for guys but it's a simple fact that any team who has half their starters as 2nd/3rd stringers is not going to be as good as a team with 1 or 2 backups playing here or there.

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ILikeThePackers39
Registered

14 years ago

#19

Anyone who can blithely ignore injures and expect the same results from a decimated team as from a team at full strength is an idiot, in my opinion.

There. I said it.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

I agree. I don't mind the "Superbowl or Bust!" fans - everyone's got a right to their opinion, and wanting your favorite team in the big game is natural. But to the fans who constantly spout the "No excuse! Get it done!" mantra, I would ask: Could YOU get it done? Do YOU have a viable* plan to account for losing key starters in essentially every position on the field and ensure a Superbowl victory?

Most of the folks I respect were not predicting a Superbowl win this season, be it other fans or the few media folk who have a brain. I don't see how predictions made far too early by talking heads equate to some sort of promise or mandate for a Superbowl win.

Injuries aren't an excuse. They are, however, a reality. And the reality is that it's pretty damn tough to win in the NFL if your team is as beat up as the Packers are. That said, I do think they can keep the ship afloat and wouldn't be at all surprised to see them make the playoffs.

*this means it has to work - not "trade for Merriman and Lynch and Champ Bailey" crap.

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Porforis
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#20

Ideally, superbowl. At the least, a playoff victory. If we're knocked out by a better team and didn't beat ourselves with dumb penalties and huge special teams blunders, I would still consider it a successful season. Everyone wants to win and winning is what ultimately matters, but just because you're not the best doesn't mean that you can't be proud.

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