Finny's and Vince's answers were much better nuanced than mine. I think tempering of expectations is entirely justifiable, not to mention rational. Thank you, guys.

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At the current pace, I will be happy if they end the season with less than 53 on IR.

I still think the team can score with just about anybody with the talent remaining. And as long as Matthews is able to play the vast majority of the reamining games, I think the team can make the playoffs and win the division.

But as of now, the team has taken about as much in the line of injuries as I think any depth could handle.

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Well, they aren't pricks, so you have to factor that in. :tongue3:

ROFL

Made me spit out Orange & Passionfruit Friday afternoon rum on my work keyboard

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No Gunny, Tauscher and Clifton have been killing the running game for years. They are deteriorating excellent pass blockers. Lets call a spade a spade. For the Nostalgia boys around here - yes they are great Packer warriors, but they are old and aren't getting it done.

As for Colledge, I don't care for him either but I don't think Newhouse is ready, but will be next year. Maybe insert Spitz, but he is a backup player in my opinion.

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It's week 6,Packers starting line-up has lost quite a few of their #1 guys. Some for 1-6 weeks, others for the season.

Packers are going to have to gut it out, figure out a way to stay at or above :500. Hopefully there is help coming from the PUP list guys.

All teams have injuries throughout the season, hopefully The packers have already incurred thier fair share, when guys start getting healthy, the team will naturallly get better.

You want Cliche's...1. "You can't win a championship in Sept. and Oct., but you sure can lose them."
2. "It's not how you start the season, it's how you finish it"

Every week, I see every game, sometimes every play being over-analyzed. I agree with Zombie, some on this forum have either forgotten, or never have learned how to sit back and enjoy Packer Football.

Wins are great(no matter how ugly), losses hurt, but can't be dwelled upon. A team needs to keep moving foward and learn from their mistakes.

For the last few years, especially this year, it was real easy to get caught up in all the pre-season "hype".

Reality has set in, at this point in the season The Packers are not a dominant team, that doesn't mean by the time the "play-off run" portion of the season is here, that they won't be.

Every season has it's ups and downs, the measure of a successful season comes after 17 weeks, then hopefully 3 more weeks.

It's only week 6, try to enjoy the next 11 weeks, win or lose, we as fans cannot change the outcome of games and the decisions of GM's and HC's.

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Apples and oranges. I don't play football for a living. I run computers that cost more than your house.

Guess what? In my world, layoffs happen. I still have to pay the bills.

But my life is boring. Football is exciting. Injuries happen and they happen to everyone.

I got a 3 player list of if these guys get injured, only then can we make excuses - Aaron, Clay, Charles. (just knocked on wood). Only if one of them gets injured can we make the excuse.

Vince - SB victory is a successful season. A Playoff win is a step in the right direction.

NSD - To refute your point, see below. Our list is big. There are teams with bigger lists.

Arizona Cardinals
Paris Lenon LB Probable Pelvis
Alan Branch DT Probable Shoulder
Matt Ware S Questionable Ankle
Kenny Iwebema DE Questionable Knee
Early Doucet WR Out Groin
Steve Breaston WR Out Knee
Nehemiah Broughton RB Injured-Rese Knee
Atlanta Falcons
Sean Weatherspoon LB Questionable Ankle
Curtis Lofton LB Questionable Knee
Michael Jenkins WR Questionable Shoulder
Jerious Norwood RB Injured-Rese Knee
Kerry Meier WR Injured-Rese Knee
Baltimore Ravens
Fabian Washington CB Probable Illness
Ray Rice RB Probable Knee
Le'Ron McClain RB Probable Shoulder
Todd Heap TE Probable Shoulder
Tom Zbikowski S Questionable Thigh
Jason Phillips LB Questionable Illness
Edgar Jones LB Questionable Thigh
Donte' Stallworth WR Out Foot
Paul Kruger DE Out Knee
Tavares Gooden LB Out Shoulder
Jared Gaither T Out Back
Kelly Talavou DT Injured-Rese Knee
Ramon Harewood T Injured-Rese Knees
Daniel Sanders C Injured-Rese Shoulder
Domonique Foxworth CB Injured-Rese Torn right ACL
Buffalo Bills
Kyle Williams NT Questionable Finger
Marcus Stroud DE Probable Ankle
Andra Davis LB Probable Shoulder
Ashton Youboty CB Questionable Hamstring
Shawn Nelson TE Questionable Groin
Bryan Scott S Out Knee
Arthur Moats LB Out Elbow
Terrence McGee CB Out Back
Keith Ellison LB Out Knee
Cornell Green T Day-to-Day Knee
Michael Matthews TE Injured-Rese Foot
Felton Huggins WR Injured-Rese Shoulder
Marcus Easley WR Injured-Rese Left knee
Danny Batten LB Injured-Rese Right shoulder
Carolina Panthers
Captain Munnerlyn CB Probable Foot
DeAngelo Williams RB Probable Illness
Jamar Williams LB Out Neck
Steve Smith WR Out Ankle
Jeff Otah T Out Knee
Sherrod Martin S Out Concussion
Charly Martin WR Injured-Rese Concussion
Duke Robinson G Injured-Rese Knee
Hilee Taylor DE Injured-Rese Knee
Wallace Wright WR Injured-Rese Shoulder
Chicago Bears
Major Wright S Out Hamstring
Chris Williams T Out Hamstring
Jay Cutler QB Out Head
Hunter Hillenmeyer LB Injured-Rese Concussion
Averell Spicer DT Injured-Rese Undisclosed
Harvey Unga RB Injured-Rese Right hamstring
Cincinnati Bengals
Pat Sims DT Probable Knee
Bernard Scott RB Probable Hamstring
Chad Ochocinco WR Probable Groin
Johnathan Joseph CB Probable Forearm
Dhani Jones LB Probable Hamstring
Roy Williams S Doubtful Knee
Jonathan Fanene DE Out Hamstring
Jordan Shipley WR Day-to-Day Concussion
Fui Vakapuna RB Injured-Rese Shoulder
Andrew Mitchell T Injured-Rese Knee
Gibril Wilson S Injured-Rese Left knee
Cleveland Browns
Robert Royal TE Probable Calf
Brian Robiskie WR Probable Hamstring
Shawn Lauvao T Probable Ankle
Joshua Cribbs WR Probable Ankle
Shaun Rogers DT Questionable Ankle, hip
Nick Sorensen S Questionable Calf
Robaire Smith DE Questionable Back
Alex Mack C Questionable Shoulder
Peyton Hillis RB Questionable Thigh
Jake Delhomme QB Questionable Ankle
Kenyon Coleman DE Questionable Knee
John St. Clair T Out Ankle
Seneca Wallace QB Day-to-Day Ankle
D'Qwell Jackson LB Injured-Rese Pectoral muscle
Kaluka Maiava LB Injured-Rese Right leg
Greg Estandia TE Injured-Rese Undisclosed
Johnathan Haggerty WR Injured-Rese Foot
Montario Hardesty RB Injured-Rese Left knee
Titus Adams DT Injured-Rese Undisclosed
Dave Zastudil P Injured-Rese Right knee
Chris Roberson CB Injured-Rese Leg
Dallas Cowboys
Jason Witten TE Probable Knee
Kyle Kosier G Probable Knee
Dez Bryant WR Probable Ribs
Chris Gronkowski RB Questionable Groin
John Phillips TE Injured-Rese Torn right ACL
Denver Broncos
Wesley Woodyard LB Questionable Hamstring
Andre' Goodman CB Questionable Quadricep
Knowshon Moreno RB Out Hamstring
Spencer Larsen RB Out Ankle
Elvis Dumervil LB Injured-Rese Pectoral
LenDale White RB Injured-Rese Achilles
Detroit Lions
Sammie Hill DT Probable Knee
Louis Delmas S Probable Groin
Nate Burleson WR Probable Ankle
Tony Scheffler TE Questionable Concussion
C.C. Brown S Questionable Quadricep
Jahvid Best RB Questionable Toe
Aaron Brown RB Doubtful Finger
Matthew Stafford QB Out Right shoulder
DeAndre Levy LB Out Groin, ankle
Calvin Johnson WR Day-to-Day Right shoulder
Aaron Berry CB Injured-Rese Right shoulder
Jake Nordin TE Injured-Rese Shoulder
Richard Dickson TE Injured-Rese Knee
Joe Cohen DT Injured-Rese Knee
Jared DeVries DE Injured-Rese Knee
Jordon Dizon LB Injured-Rese Knee
Green Bay Packers
Charles Woodson CB Probable Toe
Mark Tauscher T Doubtful Shoulder
Sam Shields CB Out Calf
Charlie Peprah S Probable Quadricep
Quinn Johnson RB Out Glute
Cullen Jenkins DE Probable Hand
Nick Collins S Probable Knee
Chad Clifton T Probable Knee
Brandon Chillar LB Out Shoulder
Nick Barnett LB Out Wrist
Aaron Rodgers QB Day-to-Day Concussion
Clay Matthews LB Day-to-Day Hamstring
Jermichael Finley TE Day-to-Day Knee
Donald Lee TE Day-to-Day Shoulder
Derrick Martin S Injured-Rese Knee
Morgan Burnett S Injured-Rese Knee
Justin Harrell DE Injured-Rese Torn left ACL
Ryan Grant RB Injured-Rese Ankle
Josh Bell CB Injured-Rese Foot
Houston Texans
Eugene Wilson S Probable Hamstring
Darryl Sharpton LB Probable Ankle
Bernard Pollard S Probable Neck
Jesse Nading DE Probable Knee
Owen Daniels TE Probable Hamstring
Dominique Barber S Probable Ribs
Mario Williams DE Questionable Groin
Derrick Ward RB Questionable Ribs
Andre Johnson WR Questionable Ankle
Jacoby Jones WR Doubtful Calf
Kevin Bentley LB Out Knee
Connor Barwin DE Injured-Rese Right ankle
Andre' Davis WR Injured-Rese Hip
Ben Tate RB Injured-Rese Right ankle, right fibula
Trindon Holliday WR Injured-Rese Thumb
Darnell Bing LB Injured-Rese Neck
Tim Bulman DT Injured-Rese Shoulder
Trey Stross WR Injured-Rese Undisclosed
Indianapolis Colts
Reggie Wayne WR Probable Knee
Clint Session LB Probable Hamstring
Jerraud Powers CB Probable Foot
Gary Brackett LB Probable Back
Jamey Richard G Questionable Shoulder
Jacob Lacey CB Questionable Foot
Brandon King CB Questionable Hamstring
Charlie Johnson T Questionable Foot
Mike Hart RB Questionable Knee
Pierre Garcon WR Questionable Hamstring
Austin Collie WR Questionable Foot
Donald Brown RB Questionable Hamstring
Antoine Bethea S Questionable Hamstring
Bob Sanders S Out Biceps
Anthony Gonzalez WR Out Ankle
Kavell Conner LB Out Foot
Joseph Addai RB Day-to-Day Shoulder
Melvin Bullitt S Injured-Rese Shoulder
Devin Moore RB Injured-Rese Neck
Ramon Humber LB Injured-Rese Hand
Jordan Hemby CB Injured-Rese Knee
Kevin Thomas CB Injured-Rese Knee
Jamie Silva S Injured-Rese Torn right ACL
David Caldwell S Injured-Rese Undisclosed
Tom Santi TE Injured-Rese Back
Brett Swenson K Injured-Rese Undisclosed
Jacksonville Jaguars
Justin Smiley G Probable Ankle
Maurice Jones-Drew RB Probable Ankle
Rashad Jennings RB Doubtful Shoulder
Sean Considine S Doubtful Hamstring
Justin Durant LB Out Ankle
Scotty McGee CB Injured-Rese Shoulder
Luke McCown QB Injured-Rese Knee
Jarett Dillard WR Injured-Rese Left foot
Kyle Bosworth LB Injured-Rese Undisclosed
John Estes C Injured-Rese Knee
D'Anthony Smith DT Injured-Rese Achilles
Terrell Whitehead S Injured-Rese Thumb
Nate Hughes WR Injured-Rese Torn right labrum
Freddy Keiaho LB Injured-Rese Concussion
Bryan Smith LB Injured-Rese Torn right ACL
Kansas City Chiefs
Ryan O'Callaghan T Questionable Groin
Tyson Jackson DE Questionable Knee
Reshard Langford S Doubtful Ankle
Cameron Sheffield LB Injured-Rese Neck
Jerheme Urban WR Injured-Rese Finger
Maurice Leggett CB Injured-Rese Neck
Brad Cottam TE Injured-Rese Vertebra
Chandler Williams WR Injured-Rese Undisclosed
Tervaris Johnson RB Injured-Rese Leg
Miami Dolphins
Jake Long T Probable Knee
Nolan Carroll CB Probable Hand
Channing Crowder LB Doubtful Groin
Jared Odrick DT Out Ankle
John Jerry G Out Illness
Will Allen CB Injured-Rese Left knee
Nate Garner T Injured-Rese Foot
Evan Oglesby CB Injured-Rese Left ankle
Kory Sheets RB Injured-Rese Right Achilles
A.J. Edds LB Injured-Rese Torn right ACL
Minnesota Vikings
Brett Favre QB Probable Ankle, right elbow
Visanthe Shiancoe TE Probable Hamstring
Bryant McKinnie T Probable Finger
John Sullivan C Questionable Calf
Chris Cook CB Out Knee
Cedric Griffin CB Injured-Rese Torn right ACL
J Leman LB Injured-Rese Toe
Jaymar Johnson WR Injured-Rese Broken left thumb
New England Patriots
Tom Brady QB Probable Right shoulder
Terrence Wheatley CB Out Foot
Fred Taylor RB Out Toe
Nick Kaczur T Injured-Rese Back
Kevin Faulk RB Injured-Rese Torn right ACL
Kade Weston DT Injured-Rese Undisclosed
Brandon McGowan S Injured-Rese Chest
Darryl Richard DT Injured-Rese Foot
Bret Lockett S Injured-Rese Chest
Leigh Bodden CB Injured-Rese Shoulder
Josh Barrett S Injured-Rese Shoulder
Ty Warren DT Injured-Rese Hip
New Orleans Saints
Usama Young S Probable Quadricep
Jimmy Wilkerson DE Probable Knee
Anthony Waters LB Probable Hamstring
Leigh Torrence CB Probable Toe
Zach Strief T Probable Knee
Jon Stinchcomb T Probable Shoulder
Jeremy Shockey TE Probable Knee
Christopher Ivory RB Probable Knee
Jimmy Graham TE Probable Ankle
Randall Gay CB Probable Foot
Marques Colston WR Probable Rib
Drew Brees QB Probable Knee
Stanley Arnoux LB Probable Ankle
Will Smith DE Questionable Groin
Pierson Prioleau S Questionable Chest
Roman Harper S Questionable Hamstring
Pierre Thomas RB Out Ankle
Tracy Porter CB Out Knee
Reggie Bush RB Out Fibula
Chris Reis S Injured-Rese Shoulder
Marcus Mailei RB Injured-Rese Ankle
Lynell Hamilton RB Injured-Rese Torn right ACL
Jonathan Casillas LB Injured-Rese Foot
P.J. Hill RB Injured-Rese Left leg
New York Giants
Osi Umenyiora DE Probable Knee
Adam Koets T Probable Knee
Terrell Thomas CB Questionable Hamstring
Kenny Phillips S Questionable Knee
Ahmad Bradshaw RB Questionable Ankle
Shaun O'Hara C Out Ankle, Achilles
Mathias Kiwanuka DE Out Neck
Madison Hedgecock RB Out Hamstring
Keith Bulluck LB Out Toe
William Beatty T Out Foot
Michael Johnson S Injured-Rese Back
Courtney Brown CB Injured-Rese Ankle
Jim Sorgi QB Injured-Rese Right shoulder
Adrian Tracy LB Injured-Rese Elbow
Sinorice Moss WR Injured-Rese Sports hernia
Domenik Hixon WR Injured-Rese Torn right ACL
New York Jets
Jason Taylor LB Probable Elbow
Darrelle Revis CB Probable Hamstring
Calvin Pace LB Probable Foot
Brandon Moore G Probable Hamstring
Nick Mangold C Probable Shoulder
Wayne Hunter T Probable Shin
Shaun Ellis DE Probable Knee
John Conner RB Probable Neck
Jamaal Westerman LB Questionable Ankle
Kris Jenkins DT Injured-Rese Torn left ACL
Ropati Pitoitua DE Injured-Rese Left Achilles
Oakland Raiders
Chris Johnson CB Probable Ankle
Bruce Gradkowski QB Probable Right shoulder
Hiram Eugene S Probable Hamstring
Jeremy Ware CB Questionable Ankle
Walter McFadden CB Questionable Hamstring
Quentin Groves LB Questionable Hamstring
Ricky Brown LB Questionable Hamstring
Chaz Schilens WR Out Knee
Darren McFadden RB Out Hamstring
Thomas Howard LB Out Knee
John Henderson DT Out Foot
Travis Goethel LB Out Back
Robert Gallery G Out Hamstring
Michael Bennett RB Out Hamstring
Zach Miller TE Probable Hip
Charlie Frye QB Injured-Rese Right wrist
Philadelphia Eagles
Reggie Wells G Probable Illness
Akeem Jordan LB Probable Abdomen
Austin Howard T Probable Back
Todd Herremans G Probable Shoulder
Brent Celek TE Probable Wrist
Jorrick Calvin CB Probable Shoulder
LeSean McCoy RB Questionable Rib
Nick Cole G Questionable Knee
Michael Vick QB Out Rib
Asante Samuel CB Out Concussion
Riley Cooper WR Out Concussion
Jerome Harrison RB Probable Thigh
Jamaal Jackson C Injured-Rese Torn right triceps
Leonard Weaver RB Injured-Rese Torn left ACL
Ricky Sapp LB Injured-Rese Knee
Antoine Harris S Injured-Rese Foot
Marlin Jackson CB Injured-Rese Right Achilles
Pittsburgh Steelers
Chris Hoke NT Out Knee
Trai Essex G Out Ankle
Dennis Dixon QB Injured-Rese Left knee
Tuff Harris S Injured-Rese Shoulder
Willie Colon T Injured-Rese Right Achilles
Limas Sweed WR Injured-Rese Left Achilles
San Diego Chargers
Ryan Mathews RB Probable Ankle
Antwan Applewhite LB Probable Foot
Louis Vasquez G Questionable Knee
Darrell Stuckey S Doubtful Hamstring
Brandon Siler LB Doubtful Foot
Larry English LB Out Foot
Shawne Merriman LB Injured-Rese Calf
Jyles Tucker LB Injured-Rese Pectoral
Ryan Neill DE Injured-Rese Knee
James Holt LB Injured-Rese Shoulder
James Dearth TE Injured-Rese Foot
David Binn C Injured-Rese Hamstring
Donald Butler LB Injured-Rese Achilles
San Francisco 49ers
Chilo Rachal G Probable Knee
Delanie Walker TE Out Ankle
Chris Patrick T Injured-Rese Shoulder
Scott McKillop LB Injured-Rese Torn left ACL
Seattle Seahawks
Aaron Curry LB Probable Hamstring
Ben Hamilton G Probable Knee
Mike Williams WR Probable Shoulder
Brandon Mebane DT Questionable Calf
Chris Clemons DE Probable Ankle
Sean Locklear T Questionable Knee
Marcus Trufant CB Questionable Ankle
E.J. Wilson DE Doubtful Knee
Russell Okung T Day-to-Day Right ankle
Leroy Hill LB Injured-Rese Achilles
Max Unger C Injured-Rese Left toe
Anthony Heygood LB Injured-Rese Achilles
Isaiah Stanback WR Injured-Rese Achilles
Ray Willis T Injured-Rese Knee
Jameson Konz TE Injured-Rese Hip
St. Louis Rams
Darian Stewart S Probable Hamstring
Rodger Saffold T Probable Tibia
Laurent Robinson WR Probable Ankle
Donnie Jones P Probable Left calf
Steven Jackson RB Probable Groin
Gary Gibson DT Probable Shoulder
Clifton Ryan DT Questionable Migraines
Justin King CB Questionable Calf
Michael Hoomanawanui TE Questionable Ankle
Darell Scott DT Out Ankle
Kevin Dockery CB Out Hamstring
Chris Chamberlain LB Out Toe
Billy Bajema TE Out Knee
Darcy Johnson TE Injured-Rese Concussion
Mark Clayton WR Injured-Rese Torn right patellar tendon
Marquis Johnson CB Injured-Rese Knee
Dominique Curry WR Injured-Rese Torn right ACL
Josh Hull LB Injured-Rese Torn left ACL
Donnie Avery WR Injured-Rese Torn right ACL
Chris Hovan DT Injured-Rese Back
Mark Lewis G Injured-Rese Undisclosed
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Kellen Winslow TE Probable Knee
Maurice Stovall WR Probable Back
Kyle Moore DE Probable Shoulder
Niko Koutouvides LB Probable Ankle
Adam Hayward LB Probable Illness
Brandon Gilbeaux DE Injured-Rese Knee
Demar Dotson T Injured-Rese Undisclosed
Jon Alston LB Injured-Rese Undisclosed
Tennessee Titans
Jacob Ford DE Probable Ankle
Leroy Harris G Questionable Ankle
Tony Brown DT Questionable Knee
Sen'Derrick Marks DT Doubtful Knee
Jason McCourty CB Out Forearm
Justin Gage WR Out Hamstring
Colin Allred LB Injured-Rese Undisclosed
Derrick Morgan DE Injured-Rese Torn left ACL
Kareem Brown DE Injured-Rese Shoulder
Marcus Howard DE Injured-Rese Triceps
Stafon Johnson RB Injured-Rese Right ankle, right leg
Rod Hood CB Injured-Rese Torn ACL
Washington Redskins
Clinton Portis RB Out Groin
Donovan McNabb QB Questionable Thigh
Kory Lichtensteiger G Questionable Knee
LaRon Landry S Questionable Wrist
Chris Horton S Questionable Ankle
Albert Haynesworth DT Questionable Not injury related
Trent Williams T Day-to-Day Left knee
Josh Bidwell P Injured-Rese Right hip
Malcolm Kelly WR Injured-Rese Knee
Mike Furrey WR Injured-Rese Concussion

Last updated through games completed on Oct 11, 2010

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I'll admit, all the injuries happening too close to each other to the Packers starters had me in a little frenzy. I am one that listened to the hype from both the media AND the players (ironically Barnett and Finley, both with major injuries).

At this very moment however, I think I have calmed down and think the Packers can still hit the 11-5 or 10-6 mark.

Front office- I have been in disagreement with the way they worked recently. I like Brandon Jackson but I think at most, he is a role player in the NFL...not a starter. What's done is done though. (This was my 1st dislike of Ted Thompson ever but I am over it).

Playcalling has me on the edge of my seat sometimes. I'm not the kind of guy to care about HOW MUCH we win by but McCarthy and Capers have gotten the best of me this season. I can't stress how frustrating it is to let teams get back into the game every single week. The Packers are up every single game and just blow the lead. THIS is the fault of the play calling. It is very clear watching the game.

The defensive scheme kills me...I literally stop breathing every time the opposing team is on offense because we allow so many little dump off passes that it tires our defense and sometimes turns into a mass amount of yards. I like the physicality of our defense, but I can't deal with the coverage.

The offensive line (tackles mainly) have been in shambles. They are old and semi-done. Bulaga proved he could play last week. Yes, he made mistakes but a lot of times he was blocking a great player in Orakapo. I don't know what Lang's situation but with those two, I think they should be playing. Still on the fence about Colledge.

Successful season- still have high hopes and I think with some of the leadership on the team and the "openess" of the NFC right now, the Packers can still run deep into the playoffs.

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You can have ten backups lost and it won't hurt as much as two key starters.

Quality, not quantity matters most with injuries. Don't be fooled by a laundry list of players injured on a team. It's the NFL, everyone has a ding or two by now.

When you lost players that you plan your game around, that hurts and forces you to adapt. The coaches who can adapt are the coaches who win.

I don't think we have those kind of coaches.

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Excellent post. One of the Nazis should give you an applaud point for that one.

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